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Topic: Dimmer issues

User: nizak, Location: Kansas Cty, Mo, USA

Asked on: Sunday, December 8, 2024 at 7:26 pm EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 6:03 am EST

Question: I have 2 LED dimmers located next to each other in a 3G box.One controls 4 recessed can lights in the center of a room the other controls 5 around the perimeter of the room.Not that it should matter but they are all located on a sloped ceiling that’s approximately 12’ at the low end and 18’ at the high end.Dimmers are listed as being compatible to the lamps and both are well within the wattage rating.4 lights in the center work great5 lights around the perimeter have a noticeable humming that’s coming from the cans and not the wall dimmer.Removed 1 bulb in the group of 5 to make the loads on each even, no change in the humming.If there was an issue with 1 of the 5 bulbs could that cause the problem and affect all of them?Replaced the dimmer just because it was easy and still the same.Any help appreciated.

Okay, let's troubleshoot this humming LED perimeter lighting issue. You've already done some good initial steps. Here's a breakdown of possible causes and what to check

Possible Causes & Troubleshooting Steps:

1. LED Compatibility Issues (Even with "Compatible" Listing)



The "Compatibility" Trap

Dimmer manufacturers often have lists of "compatible" bulbs. However, these lists are never exhaustive, and sometimes compatibility is marginal. Even if the package says it is compatible, it could still cause problems.


Change the Bulbs

This is the most likely culprit, especially since you've already ruled out the dimmer itself. Here's how to test:

Swap Bulbs

Temporarily swap
one of the humming perimeter bulbs with one of the working center bulbs. Does the hum move to the center fixture with the swapped bulb? Does the previously humming fixture now stop humming with the bulb from the center? This isolates whether the bulb itself is the issue. Do this one at a time, don't just swap them all.

Try a Different Brand/Model

Purchase a completely different brand/model of LED bulb that's also dimmable. If the hum disappears with the new bulbs, you've found your problem.

"Buzz Free" Bulbs

Some LED bulbs are specifically marketed as "buzz-free" or "hum-free." These are worth trying.2.

Loose Wiring/Connections



Inspect Connections

Carefully turn off the breaker and inspect all wiring connections associated with the humming lights:

At the Dimmer

Make sure the wires are securely tightened under the screw terminals (or pushed firmly into push-in connectors) of the dimmer. Ensure no bare wire is exposed.


At the Fixtures

Go to each of the recessed cans. Check the wire nuts (or other connectors) inside the junction boxes above the cans. Make sure they are tight and secure. If you see any black or burnt wires, or the insulation is melted, it is a problem that needs to be addressed by a qualified electrician.

Wire Gauge

Make sure you are using appropriately sized wiring for the circuit.3.

Neutral Wire Issues



Shared Neutral (Multi-Wire Branch Circuit)

It's less common with recessed lighting, but it's possible that the perimeter lights and the center lights share a neutral wire back to the breaker panel. This can cause issues if the neutral is overloaded. This is best diagnosed by a qualified electrician. Symptoms might include lights dimming or flickering when other loads are turned on.4.

Dimmer Settings/Minimum Load



Minimum Brightness

Some LED dimmers have a minimum brightness setting. If the dimmer is set too low, it can sometimes cause a hum, even if the bulbs are nominally compatible. Try raising the minimum brightness setting.5.

Recessed Can Fixture Resonance



Dampen the Fixture

This is less common, but the metal housing of the recessed cans themselves can sometimes amplify the hum from the bulbs.

Add Dampening Material

Try carefully wedging small pieces of foam, rubber, or weatherstripping between the bulb and the can housing, or between different parts of the can housing. Be very careful not to block ventilation or touch any electrical components. This is a long shot, but it can sometimes help.6.

External Interference



Rare, but Possible

In rare cases, electrical noise from other appliances or devices on the same circuit can induce humming. This is very hard to diagnose without specialized equipment, but temporarily turning off other large appliances (e.g., refrigerator, microwave) on the same circuit could provide a clue.

Order of Attack


Bulb Swap Test (Most Likely)

This is the first and most important step. Swap bulbs between the working and humming circuits one at a time.2.

Check Wiring Connections

Carefully inspect all connections at the dimmer and at the recessed cans.3.

Try Different Bulbs

If the bulb swap test points to the bulbs as the issue, try a completely different brand/model of LED bulb.4.

Dimmer Settings

Check and adjust the dimmer's minimum brightness setting.5.

Recessed Can Dampening

Try adding dampening material to the can housings.6.

Qualified Electrician

If none of the above solves the problem, especially if you suspect a neutral issue or are uncomfortable working with electrical wiring, call a licensed electrician. They can use specialized equipment to diagnose and fix the problem.

Important Safety Notes



Turn off the Breaker

Always turn off the circuit breaker that controls the lights before working on any wiring or fixtures.

Test the Circuit

After turning off the breaker, use a non-contact voltage tester to verify that the circuit is de-energized.*

If in Doubt, Call a Professional:
Electrical work can be dangerous. If you are not comfortable or knowledgeable, hire a qualified electrician.Good luck! Let me know if you have any questions as you troubleshoot. Flag for review

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