User: 4x4dually, Location: Stillwater, OK
Asked on: Tuesday, December 10, 2024 at 8:29 am EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 6:05 am EST
Question: My parent's house was built around 1989, and they used Leviton Decora Illuminated switches throughout. They are ivory but the trim around them is brown. My dad is borderline OCD and he's buggin the hell out of me to find some more because "some are flickering". He won't let me buy new ones because they "don't match." Anyway, the struggle is real.Does anyone have any old stock or know what a valid P/N for them would be? I've tried scouring the interwebz and haven't found an ivory switch with a brown trim. I'm assuming these use a neon bulb in them since they glow orange. Does anyone know of any place for obsolete stuff like this? Anyone got an old catalog that shows the brown trim on an ivory switch option? Figured someone here might know.
Okay, I understand the situation. Finding obsolete electrical parts can be a real challenge, especially when color matching is critical. Let's break down how we can approach this and some avenues to explore.
Understanding the Switch (and Why It's Hard to Find)
Leviton Decora Illuminated Switches
These were quite popular in the late '80s/early '90s. They used a small neon bulb in series with the load to light up when the switch was off (indicating the circuit was available), or in parallel with the load to light up when the switch was ON (indicating the circuit was active). The orange glow is classic neon.
The Brown Trim Issue
This is the key. While ivory Decora switches were and still are common, the brown trim is an unusual combination that suggests it was either a short-run color option, a regional variant, or possibly a component that Leviton sourced and assembled themselves (but didn't specifically market).
Why They Flicker
The neon bulbs in these switches do degrade over time, causing flickering or complete failure. It's the most common problem. However, loose connections could also contribute.
Possible Part Number Clues and Search Strategies
Given the age, the part number is unlikely to be easily found online. Here's how we might try to deduce it:1.
Careful Examination of Existing Switches
Remove one carefully
Before you do anything,
TURN OFF THE CIRCUIT BREAKER for that switch. Then, CAREFULLY remove one of the switches. Look for Markings
Examine every surface (front, back, sides, even under the mounting ears) for any numbers, letters, or symbols. Even a tiny molded-in code could be a production batch number that could lead to further identification.
Leviton Logo/Date Codes
Look closely for the Leviton logo (often a stylized "L") and any date codes. Date codes can help narrow down the production timeframe. Sometimes, date codes are very small and difficult to see. They may be stamped into the plastic.2.
Generic Leviton Part Numbers to Cross-Reference
Common Ivory Illuminated Decora Single Pole (SP) switches are often denoted with the following, or something similar: 5601-2I, but you'll want to confirm that it works with the brown trim.3.
Keywords for Online Searches
Use very specific keywords in your searches: "Leviton Decora ivory brown trim illuminated switch" "Vintage Leviton Decora switch" "Obsolete Leviton electrical parts" "Retro Leviton switch ivory" "Leviton [any number found on the switch] ivory"
Where to Look for Obsolete Stock
eBay
This is a good first stop. Search for the terms above. Save your search and set up email alerts for new listings.
Specialized Electrical Supply Houses
Call Local Shops
Call older, established electrical supply houses in your area. They might have older stock or be able to point you to someone who does.
Search for "Obsolete Electrical Parts"
Use Google to search for businesses specializing in obsolete electrical components. Examples might be: Galco Industrial Electronics: They often carry older parts. Platt Electric Supply: Sometimes has older inventory. Electrical component and supply companies that specialize in hard-to-find items.
Architectural Salvage Yards
These places often have older electrical fixtures. They might have switches from demolished buildings.
Craigslist/Facebook Marketplace
Search your local area for people selling used electrical supplies or doing cleanouts.
Electrician Forums
There are online forums for electricians where you can ask if anyone has these switches in their old stock.
Electrical Contractors' Warehouses
Contractors sometimes hoard parts after jobs. Contacting small, independent electricians who've been in business for a long time might yield results.
Alternative Solutions (If Exact Replacement is Impossible)
If finding an exact match proves fruitless, here are some alternative options to consider (with your dad's OCD in mind):1.
Replace All Switches in a Room
This is the most aesthetically consistent solution, but also the most expensive. If you can't find the exact match, replace all the switches in a particular room with a modern equivalent.2.
Source Just the Brown Trim
It is highly unlikely but maybe you can get away with sourcing the trim itself.3.
Refurbish the Existing Switches
Replace Just the Neon Bulbs
Carefully disassemble a switch and see if you can identify the neon bulb size/voltage. It might be possible to replace just the bulb (though soldering will likely be required). This is risky and requires electrical knowledge.
Clean the Contacts
Sometimes, flickering is caused by dirty contacts within the switch. A careful cleaning with electrical contact cleaner might help.4.
Dye the Existing Switches
If you can't find matching switches, consider using a plastic dye specifically designed for electrical components to change the color of the brown trim on all of the switches to match the ivory.5.
3D Print Replacement Components
If you can find a 3D-printing service, you could get them to replicate the brown trim on the switches. You'd need to provide them with a sample.
Important Safety Note
Electrical work can be dangerous. If you're not comfortable working with electricity, hire a qualified electrician. Always turn off the power at the circuit breaker before working on any electrical device. Make sure any replacement parts are UL-listed or equivalent. If you're replacing a switch, follow the wiring diagram carefully.
Good luck with your search! This is a classic case of the challenges of dealing with older homes and a desire for perfect aesthetics. Let me know if you find any new information or have more questions. Flag for review