User: dm9289, Location: Pennsylvania
Asked on: Tuesday, December 10, 2024 at 8:20 pm EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 6:07 am EST
Question: This MC cable is in a breeze way see picture. Please ignore the large unsealed hole. The roof in theory does not leak, both ends of breezeway are always open with no climate control.I think this is a damp location and not code compliant. Other opinions welcome
Okay, I've reviewed your description and the conditions you've outlined. Here's my assessment, considering relevant NEC definitions and common interpretations
My Opinion: Likely a Damp Location, and potentially problematic depending on the MC cable type and installation details.
Here's the reasoning:1. NEC Definition of Damp Location
NEC Article 100 defines a damp location as "Locations protected from weather and not subject to saturation with water or other liquids but subject to moderate degrees of moisture."2.
Application to Breezeway
Your description strongly suggests a damp location:
Protected from Weather (Generally)
The roof provides some protection from direct rain and snow.
Not Subject to Saturation (Typically)
Unless there's a catastrophic roof failure, the breezeway shouldn't be saturated with water.
Subject to Moderate Moisture
Here's the key. A breezeway, especially one that's always open to the elements, is very likely to experience moderate moisture. Consider:
Humidity
Open to outside air, the breezeway will experience humidity swings, leading to condensation on surfaces, especially metal (like MC cable).
Rain/Snow Blow-In
Even with a roof, wind-driven rain or snow can easily blow into the breezeway.
Temperature Fluctuations
Temperature changes create condensation.3.
Code Compliance Issues with MC Cable
Whether this installation is compliant depends on:
Type of MC Cable
Standard MC Cable
Generally, standard MC cable (with the aluminum or steel jacket) is
NOT rated for wet or damp locations. Prolonged exposure to moisture will lead to corrosion of the jacket and internal conductors over time. MC Cable Rated for Wet Locations (e.g., MC-HL)
Some MC cables are specifically designed and listed for wet locations (e.g., MC-HL). These have a jacket and conductor insulation resistant to moisture.
IF the MC cable is specifically marked as suitable for wet or damp locations, it might be acceptable (see installation details below). Installation Details
Even with MC cable rated for damp/wet locations, proper installation is crucial:
Connectors
The connectors used to terminate the MC cable MUST be rated for damp/wet locations to prevent moisture ingress into the electrical box. Standard MC connectors are typically NOT suitable.
Box
Is the box rated for damp locations?
Support
Is the MC Cable Properly supported?4.
The Hole
The unsealed hole significantly increases the risk of water and moisture intrusion, making the situation even worse. That hole needs to be properly sealed regardless of the MC cable type.
Recommendations
Identify the MC Cable Type
Look closely at the markings printed along the cable jacket. The markings will indicate whether it's rated for wet/damp locations (e.g., MC-HL). This is the FIRST thing to check.2.
Inspect Connectors and Box
Are the connectors and junction box rated for damp/wet locations?3.
Seal the Hole
Regardless of the cable type, seal the large hole immediately. Use a suitable sealant and backer rod to prevent water and insects from entering.4.
If Standard MC Cable
If it's standard MC cable (not rated for wet/damp locations), it should be replaced with a wiring method suitable for damp locations, such as:
MC-HL Cable
If you want to use MC Cable.
RMC or EMT conduit
If properly installed with listed fittings, these provide good protection.
Wiring method approved for wet location5. Consult a Qualified Electrician
It's best to have a licensed electrician assess the situation, verify the cable type, and recommend the appropriate corrective action. They can ensure compliance with local codes.
In Summary:
Given the likely exposure to humidity and potential for wind-blown rain, the breezeway is likely a damp location. Standard MC cable is not suitable. If the MC cable is not rated for a wet or damp location, it needs to be replaced with an appropriate wiring method. Proper connectors and enclosures need to be used. The hole needs to be sealed. Consult with a licensed electrician for the best solution. Flag for review