User: mehdi1351, Location: New Zealand
Asked on: Friday, December 13, 2024 at 3:18 am EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 6:15 am EST
Question: Hello, I have two transformers, which are going to feed the two separate buildings. Each building has a dedicated main switch board (MSB). The question is:1- Is it better to locate the transformer more close to the MSB, or its better to be more close to power pole connection point?2- Do I have any authority to specify the location of the transformers, or this is something under POCO's decision?3- The POCO is already ordered the two pad mount transformers and I have no idea on how they are going to feed them, i.e via radial feed or Loop feed. How could I know?
Okay, let's break down these transformer location questions.1. Transformer Location: Close to MSB vs. Close to Power Pole The primary goal is to minimize voltage drop and losses. Voltage drop occurs along the length of a conductor due to its resistance. Too much voltage drop can cause equipment malfunction or damage. Close to the MSB
Pros
Minimizes voltage drop between the transformer secondary and the load (your building's MSB). This is usually the more critical factor for reliable building operation. Improved voltage regulation at the MSB.
Cons
Potentially longer primary cable run back to the power pole. However, primary voltage is usually much higher (e.g., 12kV, 24kV), so the voltage drop on the primary side is less sensitive to distance compared to the low-voltage secondary side.
Close to the Power Pole
Pros
Minimizes primary cable run.
Cons
Potentially significant voltage drop between the transformer and the MSB, especially with heavier loads, long cable runs, or smaller conductor sizes.
Other Factors to Consider
Accessibility for maintenance
Both the POCO (for the transformer itself) and you (for the connection from the transformer to your MSB) need easy access.
Safety and security
Transformers should be in a secure location, protected from vandalism and unauthorized access. Pad-mounted transformers require adequate clearances for safety.
Aesthetics
Consider the visual impact of the transformer location. Sometimes, landscaping or screening can help mitigate this.
Cost
Longer cable runs, regardless of voltage, mean higher material and installation costs.
Grounding
Proper grounding of both the transformer and the MSB is crucial for safety and performance. Consider the ease of achieving this at each potential location.
Generally, locating the transformer closer to the MSB is the better practice. The low-voltage side is more sensitive to voltage drop issues. A short run on the secondary side is almost always preferred. The primary side run can usually be handled effectively with proper conductor sizing.2. Authority to Specify Transformer Location This is highly dependent on your local POCO's (Power Company) policies, regulations, and easements. Typically, the POCO has the final say on transformer location. They own and maintain the transformer. They need to ensure it's located in a way that meets their operational, maintenance, and safety requirements. They also have to work within the constraints of existing easements and right-of-ways. That being said, you (or your electrical engineer) should have the opportunity to discuss your needs and preferences with the POCO. You can explain why you believe a certain location is better for your building. Provide supporting calculations (voltage drop, load estimates, etc.) to back up your reasoning. Here's how the process usually works
Initial Consultation
You (or your electrical engineer) should have a meeting or call with the POCO's planning or engineering department early in the project. Discuss your load requirements, desired service voltage, and potential transformer locations.2.
Site Survey
The POCO will typically conduct a site survey to assess the feasibility of different locations.3.
Location Agreement
The POCO will propose a transformer location based on their assessment. You have the opportunity to provide feedback and negotiate (within reasonable limits).4.
Easements
If the transformer needs to be located on your property, the POCO will likely require an easement to allow them access for maintenance and repairs.
Key Action
Contact your POCO representative immediately and ask to be involved in the transformer placement decision. Express your concerns about voltage drop and the importance of a location near the MSB.
3. Determining the Feeder Type (Radial vs. Loop) You need to ask the POCO directly. There is no way to know for sure without contacting them. What are Radial and Loop Feeds? Radial Feed
The transformer is fed from a single source (one cable from the power pole). If that cable fails, the transformer loses power. This is the simpler and more common configuration.
Loop Feed (also called Network Feed)
The transformer is fed from two or more sources (cables) that form a loop. If one cable fails, the transformer can still be energized from the other source. This provides higher reliability but is more expensive and complex. Loop feeds often have switches to isolate sections of the loop for maintenance.
How to Find Out
Call the POCO
The easiest and most direct way is to call your POCO's engineering or planning department and ask them specifically about the feeder configuration for your transformers.2.
Review Site Plans (If Available)
If you have any site plans or drawings from the POCO, look for indications of multiple feeds or switching equipment near the transformer location. However, these plans may not always be accurate or up-to-date.
Why It Matters
Reliability
Loop feeds provide better reliability. If you have critical loads that cannot tolerate outages, a loop feed might be worth requesting (although the POCO might not be willing to provide it unless it's standard practice in your area).*
Switchgear and Protection
Loop feeds often require more sophisticated switchgear and protection equipment, which can affect the layout and cost of your electrical system.
In summary: Prioritize the transformer location close to the MSB to minimize voltage drop on the secondary side. Contact the POCO immediately to discuss your preferences and understand their constraints and the feeder configuration (radial or loop). Be prepared to provide supporting calculations and justify your requests. Flag for review