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Topic: Fire alarm rough

User: Tsull048, Location: Boonton, NJ, USA

Asked on: Friday, December 13, 2024 at 2:59 pm EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 6:17 am EST

Question: Recently I've gotten a small commercial job to do the wiring for fire alarm. There's about 12 devices, it's nothing major. I've done a job like this but it's been so long i was just wondering if someone could help me with materials.Can I use CJs to support the wire going down studs?Can I use romex buttons to enter my junction box? Using 1900 side mount with a single gang mud ring.Do I need to sleeve wiring going from floor 1 to floor 2 if it's behind a wall?I don't normally do this but it's slow as all he'll and I needed something. Any help is appreciated.Thanks

Okay, let's break down these questions and clarify some points for your fire alarm wiring job. Remember, safety and code compliance are paramount. Always consult your local AHJ (Authority Having Jurisdiction) and the specific fire alarm system manufacturer's instructions before starting any work. What I give you here is general guidance and common practices, not a substitute for those crucial resources.Here's the breakdown

1. Supporting Wire with CJs (Cable Staples/Cable Clamps):
Generally Allowed, But Check Specific Requirements

Cable staples (CJs) are
generally permitted to support low-voltage fire alarm wiring to studs. However, this is highly dependent on a few factors:

Cable Type

Are you using shielded fire alarm cable (FPLP, FPLR, etc.) or standard low-voltage cable? The cable's listing dictates how it can be supported.

Spacing

NEC (National Electrical Code) specifies maximum support intervals (typically every 4.5 feet horizontally and within 12 inches of boxes/terminations). The cable's listing may have even stricter requirements.


Manufacturer's Instructions

Some fire alarm manufacturers have specific cable recommendations and support methods.

Damage Prevention

The staples
must be installed in a way that doesn't damage the cable's insulation or shielding. Over-tightening or using the wrong size staple is a problem.

Recommendation

Use cable staples that are specifically designed for the type of cable you're using and install them correctly to avoid damaging the cable. Consult your local code.

2. Romex Buttons (Cable Clamps/Connectors) for Junction Box Entry



No - Generally Not Allowed, and Definitely Not Recommended

Romex connectors are
not suitable or approved for use with fire alarm cable entering metal junction boxes. Here's why:

Listing

Romex connectors are listed for NM (non-metallic) cable, which is very different from fire alarm cable (FPL, FPLR, FPLP, etc.).

Material Compatibility

Romex connectors are typically plastic, which isn't ideal for the fire-resistant requirements of fire alarm systems.


Strain Relief

Romex connectors may not provide adequate strain relief for fire alarm cable, especially if it's thicker or more rigid.

What to Use Instead



Metal Cable Clamps

Use metal cable clamps specifically designed for the diameter and type of cable you're using. These provide proper strain relief and grounding (if required).

KO Seals and Connectors

Ensure the connectors are appropriate for the knockout size. Use grounding locknuts if required.


Consider the Environment

If the junction box is in a damp or wet location, use connectors that are rated for that environment.

Important

Using the wrong connectors can create a fire hazard and is a code violation.

3. Sleeving Wiring Between Floors Behind a Wall



Generally, No Sleeving Unless...

Typically, you do not need to sleeve fire alarm wiring that's run behind walls between floors, unless one of these conditions applies:

Physical Damage

The wiring is exposed to potential physical damage (e.g., it's in an unfinished area where it could be easily hit or damaged).


Penetration of Fire-Rated Assemblies

If you are running the cable through a fire-rated wall or floor assembly, you will need to firestop the penetration. This is a crucial requirement.

Local Code Requirements

Some jurisdictions may have specific rules about sleeving, even if it's not strictly required by the NEC.


Firestopping



Firestopping is absolutely essential when penetrating fire-rated walls or floors.
Use a fire-rated sealant or device that's approved for the specific cable and penetration type.

General Tips and Reminders



Read the Fire Alarm System Manual

The fire alarm system manufacturer's installation manual is your
bible. Follow it to the letter.

Color Coding

Fire alarm wiring often has specific color-coding requirements. Follow these religiously.

Testing

Thoroughly test the system after installation, following the manufacturer's testing procedures.


Documentation

Keep accurate records of your wiring, device locations, and test results.

AHJ Inspection

Be prepared for an inspection by your local AHJ. They will verify that the installation meets code.


Consider the Fire Rating of the Cable

Ensure you are using the appropriate FPL (Fire Protective Signaling) cable rating (FPL, FPLR, or FPLP) for the application. FPLP (plenum-rated) is generally required in air-handling spaces.

Grounding/Shielding

Pay close attention to grounding and shielding requirements, especially if the system uses shielded cable.


Avoid sharp bends
Sharp bends in wire can cause damage to the insulation. Follow code Make sure you adhere to all local and national electrical codes.

Disclaimer:
I am an AI chatbot and cannot provide professional electrical advice. This information is for general guidance only. Always consult with a qualified electrician and your local AHJ before performing any electrical work.* Flag for review

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