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Asked on: Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 6:19 pm EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 6:50 am EST
Question: Does anyone know what the part number is for the little D sub pins that are included in Generac 7109 two wire start kits? We use them all the time for two wire start controllers, and I'm getting tired of paying $35 a piece when I just need two pins and some #18 stranded each time...
You're right, buying a whole kit just for a couple of D-sub pins is frustrating. Unfortunately, Generac rarely publishes the exact component part numbers for individual pieces of their kits. They want you to buy the whole kit.However, with a little detective work, we can figure out the likely D-sub pin type and find alternatives. Here's how to proceed
1. Identify the D-sub Connector Type Used in the Generac 7109 Kit:
Look at the Mating Connector
If you have a Generac controller with the mating D-sub connector, carefully examine it. Does it have 9 pins, 15 pins, 25 pins, or some other number? This tells you the D-sub size. Most two-wire start controllers use a 9-pin D-sub.
Examine the Pin Gender
Are the pins male (protruding) or female (recessed)? The kit you are talking about are female if they are going into the cable to connect to the controller.
Take Measurements
Measure the diameter of the pins. This will help determine if they are standard or high-density.
2. Determine the Wire Gauge Range
You mentioned using #18 stranded wire. This is crucial. The D-sub pins must be designed to crimp onto #18 wire securely.
3. Identify Crimp Type
Are the pins crimped using a manual crimper, or are they supposed to be automatically crimped?
4. Likely D-sub Pin Type
Based on common usage in control systems and the use of #18 wire, the pins are almost certainly:
Standard Density D-sub Connector Pins
This is the most common type.
Female Pins
For terminating the cable to connect to the controller.
Crimp Type
Designed to be crimped onto the wire using a suitable crimping tool.
Wire Gauge Range
Designed to accept 18 AWG stranded wire.
5. Finding Alternative Pins
Now that you have a good idea of the pin type, here's where to find alternatives:
Major Electronics Distributors
Companies like Digi-Key, Mouser Electronics, Newark/Element14, and Allied Electronics are your best bet. Go to their websites and search for: "D-sub crimp pins" "D-sub female crimp contacts" Filter the results by:
Wire Gauge
#18 AWG
Connector Gender
Female
Connector Series
Standard Density
Contact Plating
Gold or Tin (Gold is more corrosion-resistant)
Amazon/eBay (Proceed with Caution)
You can find D-sub pins on these sites, but be very careful about the quality. Make sure the seller is reputable and the product descriptions are accurate.
Example Search Terms (Digi-Key/Mouser)
"D-Sub Connector Contacts - Socket, Crimp, 18 AWG" "D-Sub Standard Density Female Crimp Contact"
Important Considerations
Crimping Tool
You'll need a good quality crimping tool designed for D-sub pins. Using the wrong tool will result in unreliable connections. Make sure the crimping tool matches the style of pin you purchased.
Pin Material and Plating
Gold plating is more expensive but offers better corrosion resistance and long-term reliability, especially in harsh environments.
Test and Verify
After crimping the pins, always pull-test them to ensure they are securely attached to the wire. Use a multimeter to verify continuity.
In summary: You likely need standard density D-sub female* crimp pins designed for 18 AWG wire. Check the major electronics distributors and use the search terms above. Be sure to get the correct crimping tool and test your connections. Good luck! Let me know if you have any other questions. Flag for review