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Topic: Sizing of OCPD for feeder circuits in UL 508a - Double dipping?

User: Tip DS, Location: The Great Meme State

Asked on: Friday, January 3, 2025 at 9:50 am EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 6:53 am EST

Question: Third edition of UL 508a specifies the size of a feeder circuit's OCPD should be:32.3.1(a) - The rating of the largest branch circuit protective device in the circuit plus 125% of all heater loads plus the full-load currents of all other motors or other loads in the group that could be in operation at the same time...So, basically, it's the sum of all the loads PLUS the size of the largest OCPD. That largest OCPD's loads have already been counted.Am I missing something, or is the addition of the largest breaker/fuse added buffer? Seems weird.

You're right to question this and to recognize the potential for double-counting. Let's break down UL 508A section 32.3.1(a) and analyze why this approach is used

Understanding the UL 508A Intent

The primary goal of UL 508A is to ensure the short-circuit and ground-fault protection of the panel's feeder circuit. It's NOT just about overload protection. Think about what happens if the largest branch circuit has a fault (short circuit).

Why the Largest OCPD Rating Matters Coordination and Withstand Rating

The feeder OCPD needs to be large enough to withstand the let-through current of a short-circuit on the largest branch circuit
without tripping itself. The largest branch OCPD is designed to protect itself and the circuit it's feeding under short-circuit conditions. The feeder OCPD needs to allow the branch OCPD to do its job without nuisance tripping.

Let-Through Current

A large branch circuit fault will cause a very high current surge. The feeder OCPD needs to be rated high enough not to prematurely trip due to this surge. The largest OCPD's rating gives an indication of the magnitude of that potential fault current.

Available Fault Current

This calculation implicitly considers the available fault current at the point where the feeder connects. If the available fault current is very high, the feeder OCPD needs a higher AIC rating (Ampere Interrupting Capacity) to safely interrupt a fault. Using the rating of the largest OCPD in the calculation helps ensure the feeder OCPD has adequate interrupting capacity.

Why it's
NOT Just Overload Protection


If UL 508A was solely concerned with overload protection, you would only sum the loads and apply a safety factor (like 125% to the continuous loads). But, by adding the rating of the largest OCPD, they're addressing the short-circuit and ground-fault scenarios.

The "Buffer" Analogy

You're correct that it does provide a buffer
especially if the actual connected loads are smaller than the maximum rating of the largest branch circuit's OCPD. It's a conservative approach, but it prioritizes safety by ensuring the feeder OCPD can handle fault conditions.

In Summary

While it seems counterintuitive, adding the rating of the largest branch circuit OCPD to the load calculation is a deliberate design choice in UL 508A to:1. Ensure adequate withstand rating for the feeder OCPD.
2. Protect the feeder circuit against potential short-circuit/ground-fault events on the largest branch circuit.3. Account for available fault current and ensure sufficient interrupting capacity.Think of it as a "worst-case scenario" approach to protecting the
entire panel's supply circuit against all likely fault conditions. It is a conservative method that focuses on safety above optimal energy efficiency.

Example:

Let's say you have the following:
Largest branch circuit: 30A breaker, feeding a motor Heater load: 10A Other motor load: 5ACalculation: 30A (largest OCPD) + (1.25 10A) + 5A = 30 + 12.5 + 5 = 47.5AYou would need to select a feeder OCPD rated at least 47.5A, so you would likely choose a 50A OCPD.Even though the actual running current might be much lower (say, the motor only draws 5A when running), the feeder OCPD needs to be sized to handle a potential fault on that 30A branch circuit. Flag for review

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