User: tom baker, Location: Bremerton, Washington
Asked on: Sunday, January 5, 2025 at 7:49 pm EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 6:58 am EST
Question: Has anyone installed the System 22 Receptacles? They are UL listed, and take a special tool to remove and replace. Architects and designers like them and of course are expensive at about $300 or so. https://22system.com/When finished all that is visible is the round front of the receptacle...seems like it would be challanging for the tile setter or finish carpenter to get the opening perfect
You're right to point out the challenges of installing the System 22 Receptacles, despite their sleek and minimalist appeal. Let's break down the points
Pros (from your description and the 22System website):
Aesthetic
That flush, minimalist look is definitely a selling point for high-end designs.
Tamper-Resistant
The special tool removal is a security feature, which can be beneficial in certain applications (e.g., commercial spaces, rentals, high-traffic areas).
UL Listed
This is a fundamental requirement for safety and code compliance.
Cons (and potential installation challenges)
Cost
$300+ per receptacle is a significant investment. This limits its practicality to very specific projects with high budgets.
Installation Precision
This is the biggest concern, as you noted.
Opening Accuracy
The cutout for the receptacle needs to be perfect. Tile setters and finish carpenters (and even electricians) are used to a degree of play with standard receptacles, which are covered by larger cover plates. The tolerances here appear to be much tighter.
Depth
The depth of the electrical box behind the wall and the precise setting of the receptacle within that box are critical. If the receptacle sits too far forward or back, it will look wrong and potentially not function correctly.
Special Tool
The requirement for a special tool for removal and replacement is both a pro and a con. It's secure, but if that tool is lost, maintenance becomes difficult. The tool's availability and cost are important considerations.
Maintenance and Replacement
If a receptacle fails, replacing it requires that specific tool and the added precision of installation. This could increase maintenance costs.
Compatibility
You need to be sure they are compatible with the electrical system (voltage, amperage, wiring method).
Future Changes
What if the end user wants to change receptacle locations or add outlets later? The system's inherent nature makes these changes more complex.
Considerations for Successful Installation
Detailed Specifications and Drawings
The architect or designer must provide incredibly detailed specifications, drawings, and possibly even templates for the cutout. The electrical contractor, tile setter/finish carpenter, and general contractor all need to be on the same page.
Mock-Ups
Creating a mock-up installation with a sample receptacle is highly recommended. This allows for testing the process and identifying potential problems before committing to the full installation.
Experienced Installers
Use skilled tradespeople who are comfortable working with tight tolerances and who are willing to take the extra time required for precision work.
Communication
Excellent communication between all trades involved is essential. The electrician, the tile setter/finish carpenter, and the GC should be in constant communication throughout the process.
Protection During Construction
Once installed, the receptacles need to be carefully protected from damage during the rest of the construction process.
Proper Electrical Box
Use electrical boxes designed for the specific type and depth requirements of these receptacles.
Alternatives
Before committing to the System 22, consider other options for minimalist outlets:
Standard Receptacles with Minimalist Cover Plates
Many manufacturers offer sleek, low-profile cover plates that can provide a similar aesthetic at a fraction of the cost. This is a more forgiving installation option.*
Other Flush-Mount Receptacle Systems
Research other brands that offer flush-mount receptacles. There might be alternatives that are slightly less expensive or have easier installation requirements.
In summary:
The System 22 Receptacles offer a visually appealing solution for minimalist design. However, the high cost and demanding installation requirements make them suitable only for specific projects where aesthetics outweigh practicality and budget concerns. Careful planning, detailed specifications, and experienced installers are crucial for successful implementation. Weigh the pros and cons carefully and explore alternative options before making a final decision. Flag for review