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Topic: Pull Can Conductor Fill

User: Kenkamba, Location: Culver City

Asked on: Monday, January 6, 2025 at 3:51 pm EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 6:59 am EST

Question: Can someone help me with the amount of #12 thhn conductors that are allowed in a 12"x12"x6" pull can. I am looking for the calculation formula. I'm assuming it is different from a standard 4"x4"x2-1/2" calculation.

Okay, let's break down how to calculate the maximum number of #12 THHN conductors allowed in a 12"x12"x6" pull box. You're right, the calculation is different from a standard 4"x4" box because this is considered a "pull box" or "junction box" rather than a "device box."Applicable Code: NEC Article 314 (Outlet, Device, Pull, and Junction Boxes; Conduit Bodies; Fittings; and Handhole Enclosures)Key Concepts & Formulas



Conductor Fill Calculation (NEC 314.16)

While conductor fill is important, it's
usually not the limiting factor in larger pull boxes. The main concern is adequate space for pulling the conductors without damaging them. We'll address fill after checking pull box sizing.

Pull Box Sizing - Straight Pulls (NEC 314.28(A)(1))

For straight pulls (conductors entering one side and leaving directly opposite), the minimum length of the box (in the direction of the pull) must be at least eight times the trade diameter of the largest raceway entering the box.

Pull Box Sizing - Angle or U Pulls (NEC 314.28(A)(2))

For angle or U pulls (conductors entering one side and leaving another side), the distance from the raceway entry to the opposite wall must be at least
six times the trade diameter of the largest raceway, plus the sum of the trade diameters of all other raceways on the same wall. If there are multiple rows, each row has to satisfy that calculation.

Conductor Volume (NEC 314.16(B))

Each conductor that passes through the box counts toward the box fill calculation. Also, you need to add for any devices, splices, or equipment ground conductors within the box. For #12 AWG, each conductor requires 2.25 cubic inches of free space.

Box Volume (NEC 314.16(A))

You need to determine the volume of the box. Your example doesn't give us the manufacturer's listed volume, so we'll assume it's a rectangular box with internal dimensions very close to the external dimensions (which might not be realistic, especially for boxes with knockouts). If the volume is listed, USE THE LISTED VOLUME.


Fittings and Locknuts

If the box is being used as a pull box, it is often required to have fittings and locknuts. Those are added when considering pull box size.

Steps for Calculation
1. Determine Raceway Size

You MUST know the size of the conduit or raceway entering the box. Without that, we can't proceed. Let's
assume for this example that you are using

1" conduit
(trade size).2. Determine Type of Pull

Are you making straight pulls or angle/U pulls?


Scenario 1: Straight Pulls

NEC 314.28(A)(1) applies. Minimum length of box = 8 (trade diameter of largest raceway) Minimum length = 8 (1 inch) = 8 inches. Your box is 12" long, so it meets this requirement for straight pulls.

Scenario 2: Angle or U Pulls

NEC 314.28(A)(2) applies. Distance from raceway entry to opposite wall = 6 (trade diameter of largest raceway) + (sum of trade diameters of all other raceways on the same wall). Assume you have only one 1" conduit entering the box on one side. Minimum distance = 6 (1 inch) + 0 = 6 inches. Your box is 12" wide, so it meets this requirement for a 90-degree pull with a single conduit.3.

Check Conductor Fill

This is where we estimate the number of #12 THHN conductors you could fit based on volume. It's a secondary check after the pull box sizing is satisfied.

Box Volume (Estimated)

12" x 12" x 6" = 864 cubic inches.
This is an estimate. The actual internal volume will be less.

If the box has a listed volume, use that number instead of calculating it
. #12 THHN Volume

2.25 cubic inches per conductor.

Maximum Conductors (Ignoring Other Fill)

864 cubic inches / 2.25 cubic inches/conductor = 384 conductors.
4.


Account for Other Fill (If Applicable)

If you have devices, splices, or equipment grounding conductors in the box, you MUST deduct their volume from the total box volume before calculating the maximum conductors.

Important Considerations



Derating

Remember that if you have more than three current-carrying conductors in a raceway or cable, you may need to derate the ampacity of the conductors (NEC 310.15). This doesn't directly affect the number of conductors allowed in the box, but it affects the size of conductors you choose for a given load.

Splices

If you are making splices in the box, you need to consider the space required for the splices themselves.


Work Space

The primary concern is the ability to safely pull the conductors through the box without damaging them or creating undue stress on the connections. Even if the volume calculation "allows" for a large number of conductors, practical considerations and workmanship standards should dictate the actual number.

Example Summary (With Assumptions)

Box Size: 12" x 12" x 6" Raceway: One 1" conduit Conductor: #12 THHN Pull Type: Straight pull or 90-degree pull with a single conduit* Estimated Maximum Conductors (Based on Volume Only): 384

Conclusion

In this example, the pull box sizing requirements (NEC 314.28) are met. The volume calculation suggests you could fit a very large number of #12 THHN conductors. However, in practice, the limiting factor will likely be the physical space available for making connections and safely pulling the conductors. You will want to leave enough room in the box to install conductors with minimal to no issues when pulling them through the raceway.

Disclaimer:
This information is for general guidance only. Always consult the NEC and local electrical codes for the most accurate and up-to-date requirements. When in doubt, consult with a qualified electrician. Improper electrical work can be dangerous and potentially life-threatening. Flag for review

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