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Topic: Using a long power cord to run my garage...?

User: Dno36, Location: Fox Lake, IL

Asked on: Sunday, January 12, 2025 at 8:41 pm EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 7:13 am EST

Question: I salvaged a 50-foot 8/4 cord we formerly used to power a portable floor grinder. It is copper-stranded and in good shape. Can I use this cable to run power to my new detached metal garage? I'd bury PVC from the house and use a new 100A breaker box inside the garage. Only powering LED lights on Circuit #1 & 5 Outlets on Circuit #2. Nothing else. I would rather use one of my salvaged big cables than buy new. Thoughts/ Ideas?

Okay, let's break down the idea of using your salvaged 8/4 cord for this project. There are several factors to consider, primarily centered around safety, code compliance, and whether the cable is actually suitable for the job, even if it seems to "work."Why It Might Not Be a Good Idea (and Likely Isn't)



Ampacity vs. 100A Service

8/4 copper cable typically has an ampacity (current-carrying capacity) far
lower than 100 amps. The "8" refers to the gauge of the wire, and "4" refers to the number of conductors (Hot, Hot, Neutral, Ground). While ampacity depends on the cable insulation type and installation conditions, it's likely rated for significantly less than 100A (likely closer to 40-50A). Running a 100A breaker box on a cable with a much lower ampacity is a

fire hazard
. The breaker won't protect the wire from overheating if the garage tries to draw more current than the wire can handle. Cable Type and Burial

8/4 "cord" is typically designed for temporary power applications, like running tools on a job site. It's likely not rated for direct burial or even for installation inside conduit intended for underground use. Direct burial cables have specific insulation and sheathing designed to withstand moisture, soil acidity, and physical damage from rocks and roots. Using the wrong cable can lead to premature failure, electrical shorts, and ground faults.

Code Violations

Electrical codes (like the National Electrical Code - NEC) dictate what type of cable is required for specific applications. Your local electrical inspector will almost certainly reject this setup if they inspect it (which they should!). Failure to comply with code can result in fines, insurance issues, and most importantly, a dangerous installation.


Voltage Drop

Over a 50-foot run (and potentially longer if you're including the vertical run up to the breaker box), voltage drop can become a concern, especially under load. This means the voltage at the garage end will be lower than at the house end, which can cause lights to dim, motors to run inefficiently, and electronics to malfunction. Using a cable gauge that's too small for the current and distance exacerbates this problem.

Metal Garage Grounding

Metal garages require proper grounding to prevent electrical shock hazards. The grounding conductor in your 8/4 cord
might be undersized for a 100A service and might not be adequate to effectively ground the metal structure.

Why you should consider other options
Safety First! The primary concern is ensuring the electrical installation is safe for you, your family, and your property. Cutting corners on electrical work can have devastating consequences. Code Compliance

Complying with local electrical codes is essential for safety and can also affect your property value and insurance coverage.


Long-Term Reliability

Using the correct materials and installation methods ensures the electrical system will function reliably for years to come, without the risk of premature failure or costly repairs.

What You SHOULD Do


Consult a Licensed Electrician

This is the most important step. A qualified electrician can assess your specific situation, determine the appropriate cable size and type, and ensure the installation complies with all applicable codes. They can also perform the work safely and correctly.2.

Use the Correct Type of Cable

For underground runs to a detached garage, you typically need

Underground Feeder (UF) cable or individual conductors run inside conduit rated for underground use.
The proper size (gauge) of the conductors will depend on the ampacity of the breaker you're using and the distance of the run.3. Proper Grounding

Ensure the garage has a proper grounding system, including a ground rod driven into the earth and connected to the grounding conductor in the cable.4.

Use the Correct Conduit and Fittings

If you're running individual conductors inside conduit, use the correct type of conduit (e.g., Schedule 40 or Schedule 80 PVC) and fittings rated for underground use. Seal the conduit ends to prevent moisture from entering.5.

Appropriate Breakers and Wiring in Garage

Select appropriate breakers for the loads in the garage. For example, a 15-amp breaker for the lighting circuit and a 20-amp breaker for the outlet circuit. Use appropriately sized wiring within the garage (e.g., 14 gauge for 15-amp circuits, 12 gauge for 20-amp circuits).

In Summary

While it's tempting to reuse materials to save money, using your salvaged 8/4 cord for this project is likely unsafe, violates electrical codes, and could lead to problems down the road.

Do not attempt this without consulting a licensed electrician.
Their expertise will ensure a safe and reliable electrical installation for your garage. It's an investment in your safety and peace of mind. Flag for review

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