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Topic: The ‘Ol “12 Inch Spacing” Rule Again

User: Seven-Delta-FortyOne, Location: Humboldt

Asked on: Wednesday, January 22, 2025 at 6:37 pm EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 7:39 am EST

Question: Did a residential generator the other day. 70’ trench, 1 1/4” poly gas line and CableMaster TC-ER GenCable in the trench.Inspectigator came for rough and said “yeah it should be separated, it’s just standard”, and then signs the card.When he comes out for final he mentions it again, says you’ll have to separate them in the future.I asked him which Code is that? PG&E has rules for their stuff in the Green Book, but this is private, and you don’t enforce the green book anyway. It’s not an NEC requirement, and it’s not in the Plumbing Code, I’ve read the entire thing.Maybe it’s in NFPA 54, Fuel Gas Code, but my county hasn’t officially adopted that Code. And he didn’t even know, said he was going to look it up and “maybe it’s a County ordinance”. Their are no local amendments listed on my counties website under the list of adopted Codes.I wish people would just stop with this stuff. Once it gets into people’s heads, it’s there forever.

You're right to question the inspector. His insistence on separation without citing a specific code is frustrating and can lead to unnecessary work and confusion. Here's a breakdown of the situation and how you might want to handle it moving forward

Why You're Likely Correct:
NEC (National Electrical Code)

The NEC generally focuses on electrical safety. Running TC-ER cable (Tray Cable, Exposed Run) in a trench with a gas line doesn't inherently violate the NEC as long as it's installed per its listing and manufacturer's instructions. Burial depth and proper backfill are usually the key concerns.


Plumbing Code

As you pointed out, the plumbing code primarily addresses the installation and maintenance of water and waste systems, not the proximity of gas lines to electrical cables.

NFPA 54 (National Fuel Gas Code)

This
could be a source of the requirement, but it's unlikely to have a blanket prohibition without specific conditions. While some jurisdictions adopt NFPA 54, your county apparently hasn't. Even if they had, it would be the inspector's responsibility to point to the specific section.

PG&E Green Book

As you mentioned, the PG&E Green Book applies to their equipment and installations, not private homeowner setups after the meter.

Local Amendments

If your county doesn't have local amendments listed, it's unlikely there's a specific ordinance on this.

Why the Inspector Might Think That Way (Even If Wrong)



Best Practice/Safety Perception

Many tradespeople and inspectors develop "rules of thumb" based on experience and a desire for enhanced safety. While good intentions, these aren't always codified. In this case, the inspector might feel that physical separation reduces the risk of damage to either the gas line or the electrical cable during future excavation or repairs.

Avoiding Future Problems

The inspector might be thinking about future work. A damaged gas line near electrical cable could create a dangerous situation.


Misremembered Rule

He might be remembering a rule from a different jurisdiction or a past project and applying it incorrectly.

Lack of Thorough Understanding

Sadly, not all inspectors have encyclopedic knowledge of every code.

How to Proceed


Politely Request the Code Reference (Again)

At the final inspection,
again politely ask for the specific code section the separation requirement is based on. Frame it as a learning opportunity: "I want to make sure I understand the requirements for future projects. Could you point me to the specific code section that requires separation in this situation?" Make a note of the date, time, and name of the inspector.2.

Escalate to the Chief Inspector/Building Official (If Necessary)

If the inspector can't provide a code reference, politely explain that you've researched the codes and found nothing requiring separation in this case. State that you understand the desire for safety, but you are not aware of a code requiring this. Mention that the project has passed rough inspection and that this wasn't brought up until the final inspection. Request a review by the Chief Inspector or Building Official. You can say something like, "To ensure we're both interpreting the code correctly, could we get a ruling from the Chief Inspector? I want to be compliant, but I also want to avoid unnecessary work."3.

Document Everything

Keep records of all conversations, emails, and correspondence. Document the date, time, and names of everyone involved.4.

Consider Consulting a Code Expert

If the issue persists and you're facing significant costs to comply, consider consulting a code consultant. They can provide an expert opinion and help you navigate the situation.5.

If No Code, Argue for Acceptance

If the inspector continues to insist without a code reference, you can reasonably argue that you've met all code requirements and request that the project be approved.

Important Considerations



Maintain a Professional Tone

Even if you're frustrated, remaining polite and professional will make the process smoother.

Focus on the Code

Keep the discussion centered on the applicable codes and regulations. Avoid getting into personal opinions or arguing about "best practices."


Be Prepared to Compromise (Potentially)

In some cases, it might be easier to make a minor adjustment to satisfy the inspector, even if it's not strictly required by code. This depends on the cost and the specific circumstances.

In conclusion, you are likely correct that there's no code requirement for separation in this specific scenario. The key is to politely and professionally push for a specific code reference. If the inspector can't provide one, escalate the issue to a higher authority.
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