User: Wrabbitslayer, Location: Arkansas
Asked on: Thursday, January 23, 2025 at 12:27 pm EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 7:42 am EST
Question: Hello, I am an industrial electrician. Most of my experience has been with existing installations but I have ran services for new equipment also. I have been approached by the local volunteer fire department asking me to hook up a backup generator they received from the USFS. The generator is a 60 Kw 3PH military surplus, see attached data plate. This is outside the scope of what I usually do so I'm needing some advise. The fire department has a 200A panel inside with the 2 largest loads being an electric range and the compressor they use for filling their SCBA tanks.I intend to go from the Gen to a transformer then inside the building to a manual transfer switch. I am at a complete loss what type and size transformer I need. Also, What would be an appropriate transfer switch. They have a very limited budget so are wanting it done as cheaply as possible. Any help y'all can give me would be greatly appreciated.https://postimg.cc/gallery/FmK44df
Okay, let's break down how to connect that 60kW military generator to the fire department's 200A panel. Given the generator's specs and the desire for a cost-effective solution, here's a step-by-step approach
Understanding the Generator and Load:
Generator
The data plate is essential. It tells us:
Voltage
208/120V, 3-phase, 4-wire. This is crucial. It's the standard voltage for many commercial buildings, which is good.
Power
60kW (kilowatts). This is the maximum power it can deliver continuously.
Amperage
208 Amps per phase (at 208V). This confirms its substantial output.
Frequency
60 Hz. This is compatible with standard US electrical systems.
Power Factor
0.8. Important for calculating apparent power (kVA).
Fire Department Load
200A Panel
This tells us the maximum current the building can draw.
Electric Range
This can draw a significant amount of current when all burners and the oven are on. We'll need to estimate its load.
SCBA Compressor
Find the compressor's nameplate to determine its running amps and starting amps (Locked Rotor Amps - LRA). Compressors often have high starting currents. If they have a soft start it will reduce this significantly.
Key Considerations and Steps
No Transformer Needed (Potentially)
Since the generator output is 208/120V, and the fire department presumably also has a 208/120V service, you should not need a transformer. Connecting a transformer would be a unnecessary expense.2.
Load Calculation
Essential! You must determine the total connected load you expect the generator to power during an outage. This is not the same as the 200A panel rating. The panel rating is the maximum the service can handle, not the typical load. Here's how: Range
A typical electric range is 12kW. However, a demand factor is allowed since all elements and oven would not be running at full draw all the time. A good way to estimate would be to take the range to be 5Kw.
SCBA Compressor
This is the most critical. Find the motor HP, voltage, and service factor on the nameplate. Calculate running amps. Crucially, determine the starting amps (LRA). This could be 5-7 times the running amps for a standard motor without soft start.
Other Loads
Account for lighting, radios, computers, small appliances, and any other equipment essential for emergency operation.
Total Load
Add up all the estimated loads.3.
Generator Capacity vs. Load
Convert the generator's 60kW to kVA: kVA = kW / Power Factor = 60kW / 0.8 = 75 kVA Convert the generators 60kW to Amps: Amps = Kw/1.73/Voltage = 60000/1.73/208 = 166A per phase Compare the generator's capacity (60kW/75kVA, 166A per phase) to your calculated load. The generator must be able to handle the running load plus the starting surge of the compressor. If the compressor LRA is too high, you might need to consider:
Load Shedding
Design the system to automatically disconnect non-essential loads when the compressor starts.
Soft Starter
Install a soft starter on the compressor motor. This significantly reduces the inrush current. (This is a higher cost solution).4.
Manual Transfer Switch
Size
The transfer switch must be rated for at least the maximum current you expect to flow through it. A 200A rated switch is a common size.
Type
A manual transfer switch is the most cost-effective. It requires someone to physically switch the building's power source from the utility to the generator.
Important Features
3-Pole
This is essential for a 3-phase system. It switches all three phase conductors.
Neutral Switching
The NEC generally requires switching the neutral conductor in a separately derived system (SDS) when the generator is not permanently connected to the building electrical system. Since this is a generator on wheels and could be used in other locations, it's generally recommended to switch the neutral. Consult with your local inspector for the final word.
Listed
Make sure the transfer switch is UL-listed or has another recognized testing laboratory (NRTL) listing.
Location
Install the transfer switch after the main breaker in the fire department's panel. This isolates the generator from the utility grid.5.
Wiring and Overcurrent Protection
Wire Size
Based on the 166A per phase from the generator, you'll need appropriately sized conductors. Consult the NEC (National Electrical Code) for ampacity ratings based on conductor type, insulation, and installation method. Use copper conductors if possible.
Overcurrent Protection
Generator Breaker
The generator should have its own breaker. Make sure it's properly sized to protect the generator windings.
Transfer Switch Breaker (Optional)
Some transfer switches come with a built-in breaker. If not, you'll need to install a separate breaker in the fire department's panel to protect the generator feed. Size this breaker according to the generator's output and the wire ampacity.
Neutral
The neutral conductor must be sized appropriately and protected.6.
Grounding
Separately Derived System (SDS)
The generator, when running, becomes a separately derived system. This means you must establish a new grounding electrode system for the generator.
Grounding Electrode
Drive a ground rod (or use an existing approved grounding electrode) near the generator.
Bonding
Bond the generator frame to the grounding electrode. Also, bond the generator neutral to the generator frame at one point only. This creates the required neutral-to-ground bond for the SDS.
Equipment Grounding
Run an equipment grounding conductor (EGC) with the phase conductors from the generator to the transfer switch. Connect this EGC to the grounding bus in the fire department's panel.7.
Interlock
Essential Safety Feature
Install a mechanical interlock between the main breaker in the fire department's panel and the generator feed breaker. This prevents both breakers from being on at the same time, preventing backfeed to the utility grid.8.
Signage
Clearly label all components: the generator, transfer switch, breakers, and grounding connections. Include operating instructions for the transfer switch.9.
Testing and Commissioning
After installation, thoroughly test the system. Start the generator, switch to generator power, and verify that all essential loads are powered correctly. Test the transfer switch operation.
Specific Recommendations
Transfer Switch
A 200A, 3-pole, manual transfer switch with neutral switching is likely the most cost-effective option. Look for brands like Eaton, Square D, or Generac. Check electrical supply houses for availability and pricing.
Wire
Size THHN copper conductors appropriately for the amperage. Consider using conduit for protection.
Grounding
Ensure a proper grounding electrode system is installed for the generator.
Important Cautions
Permits and Inspections
Obtain all necessary permits and schedule inspections with the local electrical inspector before starting any work.
NEC Compliance
All work must comply with the National Electrical Code (NEC) and any local amendments.
Qualified Electrician
This type of installation should only be performed by a qualified and licensed electrician.*
Safety First
Always de-energize circuits before working on them. Use appropriate personal protective equipment (PPE).
In summary, your general approach is correct (generator -> transfer switch -> panel). The key to cost savings is to eliminate the unnecessary transformer by utilizing the generator's native 208/120V output and carefully calculating the actual load to ensure the generator's capacity is sufficient. The most critical step now is a thorough load calculation. Good luck! Flag for review