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Topic: Murray 150 amp panel cutler hammer breakers

User: dm9289, Location: Pennsylvania

Asked on: Thursday, February 6, 2025 at 5:12 pm EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 8:21 am EST

Question: I ran across something odd today a Murray panel filled with 2 pole CH-BR230/c230 and single pull CH-BR120/C120 and CH-BR115/C115.The panel is essentially almost full of these breakers which to me was odd.Is it code compliant to use the above Cuttler Hammer breakers in this panel.

Let's break down this situation and address the code compliance of using Cutler-Hammer "CH-BR" breakers in a Murray panel.

Key Question: Are CH-BR breakers Listed (UL or equivalent) for use in Murray Panels?

This is the fundamental question determining compliance. Breakers must be listed (labeled) for the specific panel in which they are installed. Here's why: UL (or equivalent) Listing

Underwriters Laboratories (UL), or another recognized testing laboratory, tests and
lists electrical equipment for specific applications. This listing verifies that the equipment meets safety standards and is safe to use in those specific applications.

Panel Compatibility

Breakers are designed to physically fit and electrically connect properly within specific panel brands and models. The bus bar design and the way the breaker clips or latches into the panel are critical.

Safety

Using a non-listed breaker can lead to:


Poor Connection

Loose or improper connections can cause arcing, overheating, and fire.

Breaker Failure

The breaker may not trip correctly under overload or short-circuit conditions, creating a dangerous situation.


Voided Warranty

Using unauthorized breakers will likely void the panel manufacturer's warranty.

Insurance Issues

In the event of a fire caused by a non-compliant installation, your insurance company may deny coverage.

Most Likely Answer: NO, CH-BR breakers are NOT Listed for Murray Panels.
CH-BR Series

Cutler-Hammer's CH-BR series is primarily designed for use in

Cutler-Hammer panels
. They are generally not listed for use in panels made by other manufacturers, including Murray. Murray's History

Murray used to be a separate company but was acquired by Siemens. Murray panels generally take

Siemens breakers
listed for Murray panels.
Exception (Possible but unlikely)

There might be a very specific and unusual situation where a particular Murray panel is listed for use with CH-BR breakers. This is highly improbable. You would need to find explicit documentation (the panel's labeling) stating this.

What to Look For


Panel Labeling

The definitive answer is on the panel's label (usually inside the door). Look for a section that specifies which breaker types are approved for use in that panel. It will list specific breaker series and manufacturers.

This is the most important step.
If it doesn't explicitly list CH-BR breakers, then they are not approved.2. Breaker Labeling

The breaker should also list the panels where it is acceptable.

What to Do


Consult the Panel Label

As mentioned above, carefully examine the panel's label.2.

Consult a Qualified Electrician

If you are not certain, immediately consult a licensed and qualified electrician. They can properly assess the situation, determine the correct breakers for the panel, and replace the non-compliant breakers.

In Summary

It is extremely likely that using CH-BR breakers in a Murray panel is

not code compliant
and presents a safety hazard. The correct course of action is to:1. Identify the Murray panel model number.2. Check the panel label for approved breakers.3. If CH-BR breakers are NOT listed, replace them immediately with the correct, listed breakers (most likely Siemens breakers).4. Have this work done by a qualified electrician.5. Do not attempt this work yourself unless you are a qualified electrician.Important Disclaimer: I am an AI assistant and cannot provide professional electrical advice. Always consult with a licensed and qualified electrician for any electrical work or safety concerns. Flag for review

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