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Topic: Concrete-Encased Electrode Size

User: Desert Sparky, Location: Desert

Asked on: Thursday, February 13, 2025 at 10:21 am EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 8:36 am EST

Question: I've read dozens of threads on the forum regarding this topic, but I've not seen an answer to the following specific question:Assume I'm bonding all grounding electrodes together present at my building, to include building structural steel, cold water piping, concrete-encased electrode, and (2) ground rods per NEC 250.50. Per Table 250.66, my GEC should be #1/0 based on service entrance conductor size.Does my concrete-encased electrode also need to be #1/0, or can it be #4 AWG as described in 250.52(A)(3) and just be bonded to the rest of the grounding electrode system with a #1/0?

You're right to be questioning your contractor's stance. While the voltage is 120V, that doesn't automatically exempt it from arc flash labeling requirements. Here's a breakdown of why your understanding is correct and how to approach the situation

Why Arc Flash Labeling Is Likely Needed (Even at 120V):
NEC 110.16 is the Law

The NEC section you cited is very clear. The
type of equipment is what triggers the requirement. A "DAS enclosure" sounds like it could fall under the category of an "industrial control panel" or potentially even "meter socket enclosure." If it contains components that require maintenance or adjustment while energized, the label is generally required. The voltage alone isn't the determining factor.

Hazard Assessment is Key

While 120V is lower voltage, arc flash hazards can still exist. The severity of an arc flash depends on the available fault current, not just the voltage. A 120V source with a high available fault current can produce a dangerous arc flash. A proper arc flash hazard assessment (even if simplified) is necessary to determine the incident energy level.

Worker Safety

The purpose of the label is to protect qualified workers who
might be working on the energized equipment. Even with proper training and PPE, a warning label provides critical information about the potential hazard.

Likelihood of Energized Work

You state the enclosure "requires 120V Input." This implies that maintenance or troubleshooting might need to occur while the system is energized. That's a crucial trigger for requiring the label.

OSHA General Duty Clause

Beyond the NEC, the OSHA General Duty Clause requires employers to provide a safe workplace. Ignoring a potential arc flash hazard, even at 120V, could be a violation if a hazard exists.

Why Your Contractor Might Be Hesitant (and How to Counter Their Arguments)



Cost

Arc flash studies and labels cost money. This is the most common underlying reason.

Misunderstanding of the Code

Some electricians/contractors are not fully versed in NEC 110.16 and may believe that low voltage automatically means no arc flash risk.


Limited Experience

They may not have encountered arc flash labeling requirements for similar equipment in the past.

Belief it is Unnecessary

They might believe, based on experience, that the available fault current is so low that an arc flash is not likely. However, this needs to be verified with a proper analysis.

How to Proceed


Document the Justification

Clearly document why you believe the arc flash label is required, referencing NEC 110.16 and the potential need for energized work. Include the types of components in the enclosure and why they might need maintenance.
2.


Formal Request for an Arc Flash Hazard Assessment

Write a formal request to the contractor stating that a
simplified arc flash hazard assessment is necessary to determine the incident energy level and labeling requirements. This doesn't necessarily need to be a full-blown, IEEE 1584-compliant study, but a qualified person should evaluate the available fault current and potential arc flash hazard. Include the following in the request: Refer back to the NEC 110.16 requirement. Explain the purpose of the assessment: to determine the incident energy and required PPE if any. Specify that a qualified person (e.g., a licensed electrical engineer or experienced electrician) needs to perform the assessment.3.

Fault Current Availability

If possible, gather information on the available fault current at the 120V source feeding the enclosure. This is a critical piece of information for the assessment. If you can gather this and include it in the request, it will help expedite the process.4.

Simplified Assessment Options



IEEE 1584b Annex D Table-Based Method

A qualified person can use the tables in IEEE 1584b to perform a quick screening assessment for low-voltage equipment. This can provide a good estimate of the incident energy if specific conditions are met.


Software-Based Calculation

Even for a simple system, software like EasyPower, SKM PowerTools, or ETAP can be used to calculate the available fault current and estimate the incident energy.5.

Review the Assessment Results

Once the assessment is complete, carefully review the results. If the incident energy is above the threshold requiring PPE (typically 1.2 cal/cm²), an arc flash label is definitely required. The label must include the incident energy, working distance, and PPE requirements. If the assessment demonstrates that the incident energy is extremely low (e.g., less than 1.2 cal/cm² and a flash hazard analysis confirms negligible risk), a label stating "Arc Flash Hazard: Negligible" or similar may be acceptable (consult with your safety team).
6.


Escalate if Necessary

If the contractor still resists after the assessment, escalate the issue to your management and/or your company's safety department. Worker safety should always be the top priority.7.

Consider Liability

If the contractor still refuses and you are responsible for the safety of workers who might interact with this equipment, you may need to find a different contractor who is willing to comply with NEC 110.16 and prioritize safety.

In summary



Don't dismiss the risk simply because the voltage is 120V.
Document your concerns and request a hazard assessment. Review the assessment results carefully and implement the recommendations. Prioritize worker safety and compliance with the NEC and OSHA regulations.

It's better to be proactive and ensure proper labeling, even if it requires extra effort upfront. This protects workers, demonstrates due diligence, and helps avoid potential legal issues down the road. Good luck! Flag for review

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