User: pikfiredawg21, Location: Florida
Asked on: Thursday, February 13, 2025 at 4:18 pm EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 8:37 am EST
Question: My facility is buying 2 new compressors. Both are 480v 70amp. There is a 200 amp service feed in the room. Can I feed both off of the 200 amp and fuse down to each compressor with 70amp fuses?
Yes, that makes perfect sense. Here's a breakdown of why a good engineer/CAD person is crucial for shop drawings and the level of detail electrical shop drawings typically show
Why a Good Engineer/CAD Person is Essential for Shop Drawings
Accuracy and Efficiency
Shop drawings are the blueprint for field installation. Inaccurate or unclear drawings lead to:
Errors
Mismatched components, incorrect dimensions, and installation mistakes.
Rework
Time and material wasted correcting errors.
Delays
Project timelines extended due to rework and problem-solving.
Increased Costs
Higher material costs (due to waste), increased labor costs (due to rework and delays), and potential fines.
Optimization
A skilled person can optimize the design for:
Material Usage
Efficient layouts minimize waste and reduce material costs.
Constructability
Drawings that are easy to understand and implement in the field reduce installation time and errors.
Prefabrication
Well-prepared drawings facilitate prefabrication of components offsite, improving efficiency and quality.
Coordination
Shop drawings facilitate coordination between different trades. Clear and accurate drawings help avoid conflicts between electrical, mechanical, plumbing, and structural elements.
Communication
They are the primary communication tool between the designer, fabricator, and installer. Clear and concise drawings minimize ambiguity and misunderstandings.
Level of Detail in Electrical Contractor Shop Drawings
Generally, yes, electrical contractor shop drawings are expected to show a high level of detail, including branch circuit conduits and cables. Here's a more specific breakdown: Conduit Runs
Size
Specify the diameter of the conduit.
Type
Specify the type of conduit (e.g., EMT, PVC, Rigid).
Routing
Accurately show the path of the conduit, including bends and offsets.
Support Locations
Indicate the location and type of conduit supports.
Fill
Show the conduit fill percentage if required by specifications or for complex scenarios.
Cable Trays and Raceways
Type and Size
Indicate the type and size of the cable tray or raceway.
Routing
Show the path of the cable tray, including changes in elevation and direction.
Support Locations
Indicate the location and type of supports.
Cable Fill
Indicate the cable fill, ensuring compliance with codes and standards.
Wiring
Wire Gauge and Type
Specify the gauge and type of wire used in each circuit.
Conductor Color Coding
Typically shown to ensure proper connections.
Termination Points
Clearly indicate where each wire terminates (e.g., panelboard, device box).
Device Locations
Outlets, Switches, Lighting Fixtures
Show the exact location of all electrical devices.
Mounting Heights
Specify the mounting heights of devices.
Panelboards and Electrical Equipment
Dimensions
Show the physical dimensions of the equipment.
Mounting Details
Indicate how the equipment is to be mounted.
Connection Points
Show the location and type of electrical connections.
Grounding
Grounding Conductors
Show the size and routing of grounding conductors.
Grounding Electrodes
Indicate the location and type of grounding electrodes.
Important Considerations Project Specifications
The specific requirements for shop drawing content are always outlined in the project specifications. Pay close attention to these requirements.
Coordination with Other Trades
Ensure that the electrical shop drawings are coordinated with the shop drawings of other trades to avoid conflicts.*
Code Compliance: All shop drawings must comply with applicable electrical codes and standards.In summary, a skilled engineer/CAD person is invaluable for producing accurate, efficient, and constructible electrical shop drawings. These drawings, showing detailed conduit and cable routing, are the backbone of a successful electrical installation. Flag for review