User: Seven-Delta-FortyOne, Location: Humboldt
Asked on: Saturday, February 15, 2025 at 11:58 am EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 8:42 am EST
Question: I’ve heard that one of the reasons the high leg is generally not used for line-neutral loads, like say running a 208v motor, is because the voltage is very often unstable.I was on a service call the other day and I was checking voltages in a panel, and I noticed that the readings were normal, except when I would check B phase to ground, and then it would be all over the place for a few seconds and then settle down.2 questions:Is unstable high leg voltage the result of open delta transformer configurations, and would it be normal if 3 transformers were used?And, what is it that causes the unstable voltage?
You've hit on a couple of key concepts related to high-leg delta systems. Let's break it down
Understanding High-Leg Delta
The Basics
A high-leg delta system (also known as a red-leg, orange-leg, or wild-leg delta) is a three-phase power system where one of the phases is center-tapped. This center tap is grounded, creating a single-phase voltage between each of the other two phases and the grounded neutral, plus a higher voltage (approximately 1.732 times the phase-to-neutral voltage) between the high leg and the neutral.
Voltage Imbalance
The problem is that this configuration inherently creates a voltage imbalance. While the line-to-line voltages (A-B, B-C, C-A) are balanced, the line-to-neutral voltages are not. The high leg (typically B phase) will have a voltage significantly higher than the other two phases to neutral.
Why the High Leg is Avoided for Neutral Loads
You're correct that the high leg is generally not used for line-to-neutral loads for several reasons:1. Higher Voltage
The most obvious reason is the high voltage itself. Standard 120V or 208V equipment cannot be directly connected to the high leg without damage.2.
Code Restrictions
Electrical codes (like the NEC in the US) have specific requirements for identifying the high leg (typically with orange marking) and prohibit its use for certain types of loads to prevent accidental connections.3.
Potential for Imbalance (but not instability)
While not the primary reason for avoiding the high leg, load imbalances on the single-phase portion of the system can influence the high leg voltage and potentially make it fluctuate more than the other phases. This imbalance is not the source of the instability you observed, though.
Unstable High-Leg Voltage - Your Observation
Now, let's address your specific observation of unstable voltage readings between the B phase (high leg) and ground/neutral. Is unstable high-leg voltage the result of open delta transformer configurations, and would it be normal if 3 transformers were used? Open Delta Can Exacerbate Issues
An open delta configuration (using only two transformers instead of three) is inherently more susceptible to voltage instability and imbalance than a closed (three-transformer) delta. Open delta systems have less capacity to handle unbalanced loads and voltage regulation can be poorer. However, it's still not usually the primary cause of fluctuating voltage.
Three Transformers Should Be More Stable
Using three transformers in a closed delta configuration should provide a more stable voltage profile. The fact that you're seeing significant fluctuations even with three transformers suggests a problem elsewhere.
What is it that causes the unstable voltage? Loose Connections/High Resistance
This is the most likely culprit. A loose connection or high resistance somewhere in the B phase circuit (either in the panel, at the transformer, or in the wiring between them) can cause erratic voltage readings. When you probe the circuit, the meter itself can momentarily alter the connection, causing the voltage to jump around before settling.
Transformer Issues
While less common, a winding fault within the transformer connected to the B phase could cause voltage fluctuations. This is more likely to be a gradual degradation issue than a sudden failure.
Load Changes and Imbalances
Significant and rapidly changing loads on the single-phase portion of the delta system (connected to the center-tapped transformer) can influence the high-leg voltage. Large motors starting or stopping, or welders drawing intermittent high current, can cause temporary voltage dips. However, these are usually short-lived and not as erratic as you describe.
Neutral Problems
A poor or loose neutral connection anywhere in the system can cause voltage fluctuations. A floating neutral leads to unpredictable voltage variations. This is a common cause of seemingly random voltage issues.
Harmonics
While possible, harmonic distortion is less likely to cause the type of fluctuating voltage you're seeing. Harmonics are usually present constantly, not intermittently.
External Interference
Under very rare circumstances, strong electromagnetic interference (EMI) could conceivably affect voltage readings, but this is highly unlikely.
Troubleshooting Steps
Given your observations, here's how to troubleshoot the problem:1. Inspect Connections
Carefully inspect all connections in the B phase circuit, starting at the panel breaker, then the wiring to the transformer, and the transformer connections themselves. Look for loose connections, corrosion, or signs of overheating. Tighten all connections securely. Pay special attention to the neutral connection, as that is a common source of issues.2.
Check Grounding
Verify that the grounding system is properly installed and that all ground connections are solid. A poor ground can contribute to voltage instability.3.
Monitor Load
Observe the load on the system during the times you see the voltage fluctuations. Are there any large loads cycling on and off?4.
Transformer Testing
If the problem persists, have the transformer tested (insulation resistance, turns ratio, etc.) to rule out a winding fault. This is best done by a qualified electrician or transformer technician.5.
Neutral-Ground Bond
Ensure the neutral-to-ground bond is present only at the service entrance. Multiple neutral-ground bonds can cause circulating currents and voltage problems.6.
Use a Recording Voltmeter
If you can't pinpoint the problem, a recording voltmeter can capture the voltage fluctuations over time and provide valuable clues about the timing and magnitude of the variations.
In Summary:
While high-leg delta systems inherently have voltage imbalances, significant and unstable voltage on the high leg is not normal and usually indicates a connection problem, load imbalance, or a failing component. Focus on inspecting and tightening connections, especially those related to the neutral and the B phase circuit. Flag for review