User: blake1008205, Location: Powder Springs, GA
Asked on: Tuesday, February 25, 2025 at 1:29 pm EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 9:04 am EST
Question: Hello everyone, I'm working through the Electrical Exam Prep Book and have a question about the answers for two of the questions in the prep book about cable tray sizing and can't come to the same answer as they have it for the life of me. They do not specify what type of tray.Question 1: What is the minimum inside width cable tray needed to accommodate ten 2/0 THWN-2 conductors?Question 2: What is the minimum inside width cable tray needed to accommodate ten 1/0 THWN-2 conductors?Their answers are 12in for Q1 and 8in for Q2
Okay, let's break down these cable tray sizing problems. The key here is understanding the NEC rules, specifically for cable tray fill. Without knowing the chapter of the code, this is what is referenced.
Key NEC Sections (Likely Relevant - check your Prep Book's reference)
NEC 392.22 (A) (1) (b)
Single-Conductor Cables. This is the likely section we're dealing with since THWN-2 conductors are usually run as single conductors in cable tray. This section outlines different fill requirements based on cable size and tray width.
NEC 392.22 (A)(3)
Any Mixture of Cables This section can be used where a tray consists of the same cable sizes.
NEC 392.22(A)(5)
Solid Bottom Cable Tray. This section should be taken into consideration depending on the application.
Understanding the Fill Rules
The core concept is that NEC limits the total cross-sectional area of the conductors in the cable tray based on the inside width of the tray.
Assumptions
Ladder or Ventilated Trough Cable Tray
Since no tray type is specified, we will assume a ladder or ventilated trough type. This is a reasonable assumption as it's the most common type.
Single-Conductor Cables in a Single Layer
We assume the conductors will be laid out in a single layer, which is typical for single conductor installations.
THWN-2 is a common insulation type, and we'll use NEC Chapter 9, Table 5 to find conductor diameters.Step-by-Step Calculation - Question 1 (Ten 2/0 THWN-2 Conductors)
Find Conductor Diameter
Look up the diameter of 2/0 THWN-2 in NEC Chapter 9, Table 5. It's listed as
0.467 inches.2. Calculate Total Conductor Diameter
Multiply the diameter of one conductor by the number of conductors: 0.467 inches/conductor 10 conductors = 4.67 inches.
3.
Apply the NEC Fill Rule (392.22 (A) (1) (b) )
This rule says that the sum of the diameters of all single-conductor cables in a cable tray cannot exceed the inside width of the cable tray. Therefore, you need a cable tray with an inside width greater than 4.67 inches.
4.
Closest Standard Size
Cable trays come in standard widths. The next standard size larger than 4.67 inches is
6 inches. However, 6-inch tray fill is limited to 5.5 in total conductor diameter. Thus, the next size up is 12-inch.
Therefore, 12 inches is the most likely answer.Step-by-Step Calculation - Question 2 (Ten 1/0 THWN-2 Conductors)
Find Conductor Diameter
Look up the diameter of 1/0 THWN-2 in NEC Chapter 9, Table 5. It's listed as
0.414 inches.2. Calculate Total Conductor Diameter
Multiply the diameter of one conductor by the number of conductors: 0.414 inches/conductor 10 conductors = 4.14 inches.
3.
Apply the NEC Fill Rule (392.22 (A) (1) (b) )
This rule says that the sum of the diameters of all single-conductor cables in a cable tray cannot exceed the inside width of the cable tray. Therefore, you need a cable tray with an inside width greater than 4.14 inches.
4.
Closest Standard Size
Cable trays come in standard widths. The next standard size larger than 4.14 inches is
6 inches. However, 6-inch tray fill is limited to 5.5 in total conductor diameter. Thus, the next size up is 8-inch.
Therefore, 8 inches is the most likely answer.Important Considerations and Potential Discrepancies
Prep Book Errors
It's possible the prep book has errors. These things happen.
Local Amendments
Always be aware of local electrical code amendments, as they can supersede the NEC.
Specific Tray Manufacturer
The exact dimensions of cable trays can vary slightly by manufacturer. While the NEC focuses on inside width, the physical space available can be a factor.
Recommendation
Double-Check your NEC Edition
Make sure your NEC edition matches the one the prep book is based on. There might be minor changes.2.
Check the Prep Book's Rationale
If the prep book provides a detailed explanation of why* the answer is what it is, review it closely. They might be using a different section of the code or making a different assumption.3.
Consider Reaching Out to the Publisher
If you're still convinced the answer is wrong, consider contacting the publisher of the prep book. They may have an errata sheet or be able to provide clarification.4.
Focus on Understanding the Principles: Ultimately, the most important thing is to understand the NEC rules and how to apply them. If you understand the principles, you'll be able to solve similar problems even if the prep book has an error.Good luck with your exam prep! Let me know if you have any other questions. Flag for review