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User: Ponchik, Location: CA

Asked on: Wednesday, March 5, 2025 at 4:41 pm EST
Answered on: Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 9:23 am EST

Question: Has anyone installed a battery backup for tankless water heater? Can a regular UPS work or it has to be specific for water heaters? What manufacturer do you recommend?TIA

You're on the right track thinking about battery backup for a tankless water heater. Here's a breakdown of what's involved and what to consider

The Need for Battery Backup:

Tankless water heaters rely on electricity for a few key functions: Electronic Ignition

They need power to ignite the gas burner (natural gas or propane).


Control System

Electronic components manage the burner, fan, temperature sensors, and safety features.

Circulation Pump (Some Models)

Some models have a small internal pump to circulate water more quickly, reducing the cold water "delay" at the tap.Without power, even if you have gas, your tankless heater won't produce hot water.

Can a Regular UPS Work?
Generally, no. A "regular" computer UPS is usually insufficient for several reasons



Power Draw

Tankless heaters have a significant power draw upon ignition (starting the blower) and less once running. This initial surge can easily overload a standard UPS designed for computers.


Wattage

Most computer UPS units don't provide enough continuous wattage to run the water heater's components for a useful amount of time. Check the specifications of your tankless heater to see how many watts it draws during startup and when it's actively heating. A computer UPS is designed for electronics that use significantly less power.

Runtime

Even if the wattage were sufficient, the battery capacity in a small UPS likely provides only a few minutes of runtime. You want something that can last through a reasonable power outage (several hours or even a day).


Modified Sine Wave vs. Pure Sine Wave

Many cheaper UPS units produce a modified sine wave AC output, rather than a pure sine wave. While some appliances can tolerate this, sensitive electronics like those in a tankless water heater are better served by a pure sine wave inverter. A modified sine wave can sometimes cause damage or malfunction over time.

Environmental Considerations

Standard UPS units are designed for indoor use in climate-controlled environments. A backup system for a water heater might need to operate in more demanding conditions (garage, utility room).

What You Need: A More Robust Battery Backup System


You need a system designed for higher power demands and longer runtimes. Here's what to look for:1. Inverter



Pure Sine Wave Inverter

Absolutely essential for sensitive electronics. This provides the cleanest and most compatible AC power.

Sufficient Wattage

Calculate the
surge wattage (the peak draw during ignition) and the continuous wattage your tankless heater requires. Choose an inverter that comfortably exceeds both. Oversizing a bit is better than under sizing. You should consult your water heater's installation manual for power requirements.

Automatic Transfer Switch (ATS)

Ideally, the inverter should have an ATS. This automatically switches from grid power to battery power when the grid goes down, and back again when the power returns. This is seamless and prevents you from having to manually switch anything over.2.

Battery Bank



Deep Cycle Batteries

These are designed to be discharged and recharged repeatedly. Car batteries are
not a good choice (they're designed for short bursts of power). Good options include:

AGM (Absorbent Glass Mat) Batteries

Sealed, maintenance-free, and relatively safe.

Gel Batteries

Also sealed and maintenance-free, but can be more sensitive to overcharging.


Lithium Batteries (LiFePO4)

The best performing and longest lasting but also the most expensive. Lighter, can discharge more of their capacity, and have a much longer lifespan than lead-acid.

Sufficient Capacity (Amp-Hours - Ah)

This determines how long your battery bank can power the water heater. Calculate your power needs:
Determine the water heater's power consumption (watts) as discussed earlier. Estimate how long you want the backup to last (hours). Calculate the total energy needed (watt-hours): `Watts x Hours = Watt-Hours` Convert Watt-Hours to Amp-Hours: `Watt-Hours / Battery Voltage (typically 12V, 24V, or 48V) = Amp-Hours` Account for Battery Depth of Discharge (DoD): Lead-acid batteries shouldn't be discharged below 50% capacity to prolong their life. Lithium batteries can be safely discharged to 80-90% or more.Example: A tankless heater draws 200 watts continuously. You want 8 hours of backup on a 12V system. Watt-Hours: 200 watts x 8 hours = 1600 Wh Amp-Hours: 1600 Wh / 12V = 133.3 Ah For lead-acid (50% DoD): 133.3 Ah / 0.5 = 266.6 Ah. You'd need at least a 270 Ah battery bank.
3.


Battery Charger



Smart Charger

A charger that can automatically adjust its charging voltage and current based on the battery's state of charge. This prevents overcharging and extends battery life.

Compatible with Battery Type

Make sure the charger is designed for the type of batteries you are using (AGM, Gel, Lithium).

Manufacturers to Consider



Goal Zero

Offers complete solar generator systems that can be used for backup power. Their larger models could potentially handle a tankless water heater, especially if you only need to run the electronics.

Jackery

Similar to Goal Zero, offering portable power stations that can be suitable for small backup needs.


Renogy

A popular brand for solar and battery backup systems. They sell inverters, batteries, chargers, and complete kits. A good choice if you want to build your own system.

Schneider Electric

A well-established company making a range of inverters and power management solutions. They tend to be at the higher-end of the price range.


Generac

Primarily known for whole-house generators, but some of their smaller power stations could potentially work (check the wattage requirements).

CyberPower

A well known name in UPS and power management. Some of their higher-end UPS solutions could potentially work with a tankless water heater, but you must verify the wattage and runtime.

Important Considerations & Recommendations



Professional Installation

Unless you have significant electrical experience, hire a qualified electrician. Improper installation can be dangerous and void warranties.

Codes and Permits

Check your local electrical codes and whether you need a permit for battery backup systems.


Testing

After installation, test the system to ensure it switches over correctly and provides the expected runtime.

Maintenance

Follow the manufacturer's recommendations for battery maintenance (e.g., checking electrolyte levels in flooded lead-acid batteries, keeping terminals clean).


Prioritize Power Needs

Consider what else you might want to power during an outage. A larger system can power more than just the water heater, but it will also be more expensive. Focus on essential loads.*

Consider a Generator

For longer outages, a gasoline or propane generator might be a better long-term solution, as it can provide power for days (provided you have fuel).

In summary:
Don't try to use a small, computer-grade UPS. You need a robust, pure sine wave inverter, a deep-cycle battery bank with sufficient capacity, and a smart battery charger. Research the specific power requirements of your tankless water heater and consult with an electrician to design a safe and effective backup system. Good luck! Flag for review

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