User: Jimmy7, Location: Boston, MA
Asked on: Friday, March 7, 2025 at 7:04 am EST
Answered on: Saturday, March 8, 2025 at 12:09 am EST
Question: I have to install some residential post lights that have aluminum poles. The hole at the bottom of pole is approximately 1 1/4” , and we were planning on running UF cable. I may need to use concrete at the base as well because the soil is very sandy in this area. What would you use for a bushing where it enters the 1 1/4 access hole, or would you even use one? You can’t obviously get a locknut inside the pole for a fitting. I’m guessing that UF can’t be put in concrete, so that may be an issue as well. What have you done in the past?
Okay, this is a common situation, and here's a breakdown of how I would approach it, considering the code compliance, practicality, and durability
Understanding the Challenges:
Direct Burial of UF Cable
UF (Underground Feeder) cable is designed for direct burial, but not direct encasement in concrete. The concrete can react with the cable jacket over time, causing it to degrade.
Protection at Entry Point
You need to protect the UF cable from abrasion and sharp edges at the entry point into the aluminum pole. Direct rubbing against the aluminum edge can lead to a short over time
Securing the Pole in Sandy Soil
Sandy soil provides poor stability. You'll likely need concrete to properly anchor the post.
Working Inside the Pole
Access inside the pole, especially near the base, is typically limited or non-existent.
Here's my recommended approach
Foundation Preparation (Essential for Sandy Soil)
Dig a Hole
Dig a hole large enough and deep enough to accommodate a concrete base. The size depends on the height and weight of the post and the expected wind load, but I would start with a minimum of 12" diameter and 18" deep.
Consult local codes/guidelines for specific foundation requirements. Some areas have prescriptive requirements based on soil type. Gravel Base (Important)
Add a layer of gravel (4-6 inches) at the bottom of the hole for drainage. This helps prevent water from pooling around the concrete and potentially damaging the UF cable.
Optional Form
You can use a Sonotube (cardboard concrete form) or a homemade form to create a cleaner concrete base. This isn't strictly necessary, but it makes for a more professional-looking installation.2.
Creating a Protective Raceway
Short PVC Conduit Section
This is key. You're going to create a short raceway for the UF cable as it passes through the concrete and into the aluminum pole. Use a piece of
1-inch Schedule 40 PVC conduit. This will provide ample space for the UF cable and allow for future replacement if needed. Cut the PVC conduit to a length that extends at least 6 inches below the bottom of the aluminum pole and a few inches above where the UF cable will enter the pole. The bottom should extend slightly beyond the concrete level. Secure the PVC Conduit to the Pole (Before Concreting)
Bushing (Essential)
Use a
PVC conduit bushing to protect the UF cable where it enters the PVC conduit at the pole. This is non-negotiable. A proper bushing will have a smooth, rounded edge to prevent abrasion of the cable. Method 1 (Most Common)
Slide the PVC conduit up into the pole. The bushing needs to fit snugly in the 1 1/4" hole at the base of the post. You may have to play around to find the right one. You can use a PVC Coupling and glue that to the inside of the pole to reduce the opening if needed.
Method 2 (alternative)
Get a reducing fitting that fits the 1 1/4" pole opening and reduces to the 1" PVC.
Important Considerations
Cable Bend Radius
Be mindful of the minimum bend radius of the UF cable. Don't force it into too tight of a bend.3.
Positioning and Concreting
Position the Pole and Conduit
Place the aluminum pole (with the PVC conduit attached) in the center of the hole, resting on the gravel base. Ensure the pole is plumb (perfectly vertical). Use temporary bracing (wood stakes and supports) to hold it in place while the concrete sets.
Mix and Pour Concrete
Mix concrete according to the manufacturer's instructions. Pour the concrete into the hole, filling it to the desired level (typically a few inches below the final grade).
Trowel the Concrete
Smooth the top of the concrete with a trowel, creating a slight slope away from the pole to promote water runoff.
Allow to Cure
Allow the concrete to cure completely according to the manufacturer's instructions (typically 24-72 hours).4.
Wiring (After Concrete Cures)
Pull UF Cable
Carefully pull the UF cable up through the PVC conduit into the pole. Be careful not to damage the cable insulation.
Connections
Make all electrical connections inside the post light fixture following the manufacturer's instructions and all applicable electrical codes. Use appropriate wire connectors (wire nuts or push-in connectors) for a secure and reliable connection.
Grounding
Ensure proper grounding of the fixture and the metal pole.
Important Considerations and Code Compliance
Local Codes
ALWAYS consult your local electrical codes and building codes. Requirements vary by location. You may need a permit for this work.
Depth
Make sure the depth is below your local frost line if you live in a cold climate
UF Cable Depth
When burying the UF cable that feeds the post light, make sure it's buried to the depth required by your local codes (typically 18-24 inches).
GFCI Protection
Ensure the circuit feeding the post light is GFCI protected. This is usually required for outdoor lighting circuits.
Licensed Electrician
If you are not comfortable with any part of this process, especially the electrical connections, hire a qualified, licensed electrician. Electricity can be dangerous.
Why this approach is better
Protects UF Cable
The PVC conduit isolates the UF cable from direct contact with the concrete, preventing chemical degradation. The bushing protects it from abrasion.
Provides a Raceway
The conduit acts as a raceway, making it easier to pull the cable and allows for future replacement if needed.
Secure Pole
The concrete provides a solid foundation for the post light, even in sandy soil.
Code Compliant
This method is generally compliant with electrical codes when done correctly.*
Professional Appearance: The resulting installation looks neat and professional.Let me know if you have any other questions! Good luck with your project! Flag for review