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Topic: Help with 3 Phase Converter

User: jim609, Location: Phoenix, AZ

Asked on: Friday, March 7, 2025 at 3:12 pm EST
Answered on: Saturday, March 8, 2025 at 12:11 am EST

Question: I hooked up a lathe to a digital 3 phase converter. I used a cheaper converter so maybe that is the problem but I am getting nothing with the lathe. The contactor does not even seem to kick in. Any ideas? I connected the converted to the main power not directly to the motor and the lathe is in a bad place to try and open the area that houses the contactor but I do not hear it click when I press the start button. Any ideas?

Okay, let's troubleshoot why your lathe isn't running with your digital phase converter. Even a "cheaper" converter should still allow the contactor to pull in, so we need to figure out what's blocking it.Here's a breakdown of potential problems and troubleshooting steps, starting with the simplest and most common

1. Input Power & Phase Converter Output Verification:
Input Voltage to Phase Converter

Absolutely first, double-check the voltage and wiring to your phase converter. Make sure you're getting the correct voltage (usually 240V) on the input terminals (L1 and L2, assuming single-phase input).


Phase Converter Output Voltage

Use a multimeter to measure the voltage between each pair of the three output legs (T1-T2, T2-T3, and T3-T1) of the phase converter. They should be close to the rated voltage (e.g., 240V). Significant imbalances here are a red flag. A cheaper converter is more likely to have unbalanced voltage on T3, the manufactured phase. Measure this with the lathe OFF (no load).

Phase Converter Wiring

Double-check your wiring from the converter to the lathe. Make sure the phase converter's output legs (T1, T2, T3) are connected to the corresponding input terminals on the lathe's power distribution box (where the main power cable of the lathe connects). Double check that L1, L2, and L3 are where they are supposed to be. Swapping two legs will cause issues.

2. Lathe's Main Disconnect/Power Switch



Is it ON?
This sounds obvious, but make sure the lathe's main power disconnect switch (often a large red handle or knob) is in the "ON" position. Fuses/Circuit Breakers

Open the electrical box
safely (power OFF!) and check the main fuses or circuit breakers inside the lathe. A blown fuse or tripped breaker would prevent the contactor from engaging. Replace fuses with the exact same type and amperage rating. Reset breakers fully.

3. Contactor Coil Voltage and Wiring



Contactor Coil Voltage

Identify the voltage that the contactor coil needs (e.g., 240V, 120V, 24V). This is usually printed on the contactor itself.

Voltage to Contactor Coil

When you press the lathe's "Start" button, use a multimeter to measure the voltage
at the contactor coil terminals. This is the key. If you're NOT getting the correct voltage to the coil, the contactor won't pull in. This points to a problem in the lathe's control circuit.

Contactor Coil Wiring

Inspect the wiring to the contactor coil. Look for loose connections, broken wires, or signs of damage. A loose wire here is very common.

4. Lathe's Safety Circuit/Interlocks



Emergency Stop (E-Stop) Button

Make absolutely sure the E-Stop button is released (pulled out or turned to reset). This is the most common cause of this type of problem.


Interlock Switches

Lathes often have interlock switches on the chuck guard, gear covers, or other safety devices. These switches must be closed (engaged) for the lathe to run. Inspect these switches and their wiring. A misaligned or faulty interlock switch will prevent the control circuit from energizing the contactor. Temporarily (for testing ONLY, and with extreme caution) you could bypass each interlock switch one at a time to see if that allows the lathe to start. DO NOT run the lathe with safety interlocks bypassed for anything other than very brief testing.

Overload Protection

Lathes have overload protection relays/devices. These can trip, preventing the contactor from engaging. Look for overload relays (often with a reset button) in the control cabinet. If you find one tripped, reset it and try again.

5. Phase Converter Settings (if applicable)



Voltage Adjustment

Some digital phase converters have voltage adjustment potentiometers. If yours does, check the manual and make sure the output voltage is properly adjusted.

Load Sensitivity/Starting Boost

Some advanced converters have settings related to load sensitivity or starting boost. These settings might affect how well it handles the inrush current of the lathe motor. Check the phase converter manual.

6. Potential Phase Converter Issues (Least Likely Initially)



Faulty Converter

While less likely initially, the phase converter itself could be faulty, even if it's outputting voltage. It might not be able to provide enough current to start the lathe motor.

Converter Undersized

The phase converter might be undersized for the lathe's motor. Check the motor's nameplate horsepower (HP) and make sure the converter is rated for at least that HP, and preferably higher.

Troubleshooting Steps


Start with the Safety Interlocks and E-Stop

Ensure these are properly engaged.2.

Check for Voltage at the Contactor Coil

This is the crucial test. It tells you if the control circuit is working.3.

Trace the Control Circuit

If you don't have voltage at the contactor coil, use a wiring diagram (if available) or carefully trace the wiring of the control circuit from the start button back to the power source, looking for open circuits (bad switches, broken wires).4.

Test Each Component

If you suspect a specific component (e.g., interlock switch), test it with a multimeter for continuity.5.

Phase Converter Load Test

With the lathe disconnected, try running a different 3-phase motor (if you have one) with the phase converter to see if the converter can handle a load. This will help isolate the problem to the lathe or the converter.

Important Safety Notes



Disconnect Power

Always disconnect power from the lathe and phase converter before working on the electrical components.

Lockout/Tagout

Use proper lockout/tagout procedures to prevent accidental re-energization while you're working.


Qualified Personnel

If you're not comfortable working with electrical circuits, hire a qualified electrician. High voltage can be dangerous.*

Safety First:
Never bypass safety interlocks permanently. They are there to protect you.By systematically checking these areas, you should be able to identify the reason why your lathe isn't starting. Good luck! Flag for review

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