User: Kaya, Location: Canada
Asked on: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 4:41 pm EDT
Answered on: Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 5:46 pm EDT
Question: Hello team,Im working on an industrial food robot since 3 weeks to know what's issue i have in,I change several parts but always stuck and the robot dont start.As you see in this card there's many relay and 1 Ac-ac transformer, those big relay are controlled from 2 sensor and the 2 small one controlled from the start button,My issue is how to be sure that those 2 small relay are correct and there is no problems in,Those small relay are ST-SH-112L,<a href="https://ibb.co/n8Vbs2yW"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/KzQXjZg1/20250312-161332.jpg" alt="20250312-161332" border="0"></a>
Okay, let's troubleshoot those ST-SH-112L relays. Here's a breakdown of how to test them and what to look for
Understanding the Relay (ST-SH-112L)
12V Coil
The "112L" in the part number indicates that these are 12V DC relays. This means you need 12V DC applied to the coil terminals (usually labeled A1 and A2, or similar) to energize the relay and switch the contacts.
Contact Configuration
You'll need to determine the specific contact configuration (SPDT, SPST-NO, SPST-NC, etc.). Look at the relay's datasheet (if available) or carefully examine the wiring and markings on the relay itself. This is crucial for understanding how the relay is supposed to switch the circuit. Relays typically have a Common (COM) terminal and Normally Open (NO) and/or Normally Closed (NC) terminals.
Troubleshooting Steps1. Visual Inspection
Burn Marks/Damage
Carefully inspect the relays for any signs of burning, melting, or other physical damage. If you see any, the relay is likely bad and needs replacement.
Loose Connections
Check all the wiring connected to the relay. Ensure the wires are securely attached to the terminals and that there are no broken wires.
Contamination
Look for any dirt, grease, or corrosion on the relay terminals or around the relay. Clean if necessary (power OFF, use appropriate contact cleaner).2.
Power Off Testing (Continuity Testing)
Coil Resistance
Disconnect the power to the robot and unplug the relays if possible. If you can't unplug them, at least disconnect the wires going to the relay coil (the wires connected to where you would apply the 12V to activate the relay). Using a multimeter set to Ohms (resistance), measure the resistance across the coil terminals. A healthy 12V DC relay should have a resistance in the range of approximately 200-500 ohms. (Calculate expected resistance: R = V^2/P. If the coil draws, say, 0.4W, then R = 12^2 / 0.4 = 360 ohms). A very low resistance (close to 0 ohms) indicates a shorted coil, and the relay is bad. Infinite resistance (open circuit) indicates a broken coil, and the relay is also bad.
Contact Continuity (De-energized)
Identify the Common (COM), Normally Open (NO), and Normally Closed (NC) terminals of the relay. (This is critical! Look for markings on the relay or trace the wiring to understand the circuit.) Without applying power to the relay, use the multimeter to check continuity between the COM terminal and the NC terminal. You should have continuity (close to 0 ohms). Check continuity between the COM terminal and the NO terminal. You should NOT have continuity (infinite resistance).
Contact Continuity (Energized - Requires Caution!)
SAFETY FIRST
This test requires you to apply 12V DC to the relay coil. Be extremely careful to avoid electric shock. Use a properly rated power supply and appropriate test leads. Make sure your hands are dry and you are working on a non-conductive surface. If you are not comfortable working with live circuits, skip this step and seek assistance from a qualified technician. Connect a 12V DC power supply to the relay coil terminals (A1 and A2, observing polarity if it matters). You should hear a click as the relay activates. While the relay is energized, use the multimeter to check continuity between the COM terminal and the NC terminal. You should NOT have continuity (infinite resistance). Check continuity between the COM terminal and the NO terminal. You SHOULD have continuity (close to 0 ohms). Remove the 12V power from the coil. The relay should click back to its de-energized state. Recheck continuity as in the "De-energized" test above.3.
In-Circuit Testing (More Complex, Requires Understanding the Circuit)
Voltage to Coil
With the robot attempting to start, use a multimeter to check if the 12V DC is actually reaching the coil terminals of the relay when the start button is pressed. If you don't see 12V (or close to it), the problem is likely before the relay (the start button, wiring, or the control circuit supplying the voltage).
Output Voltage
If the relay is receiving 12V and clicking, check the voltage at the output terminals (the COM, NO, or NC terminals, depending on how the relay is wired in the circuit) to see if the relay is actually switching the circuit as expected. This will require you to understand what voltage should be present at those terminals in both the energized and de-energized states.
Common Problems Failed Coil
The coil inside the relay can burn out, either shorting or opening the circuit. The resistance test above will reveal this.
Stuck Contacts
The contacts can become corroded, dirty, or mechanically stuck, preventing them from making proper contact. This is why continuity testing is important.
Weak Spring
The spring mechanism inside the relay can weaken over time, causing the relay to switch unreliably.
Voltage Drop
A problem in the wiring or power supply can cause the voltage reaching the relay coil to be too low to reliably activate the relay.
Recommendations Datasheet
Try to find the datasheet for the ST-SH-112L relay online. This will give you the definitive pinout and electrical specifications.
Circuit Diagram
Ideally, you should have a circuit diagram for the robot. This will make troubleshooting much easier.
Isolate the Problem
Systematically test each part of the circuit, starting with the power supply and working your way through the start button, wiring, relays, and sensors.
Replace Suspect Relays
Relays are relatively inexpensive. If you suspect a relay is faulty, it's often best to simply replace it with a new one.
Consult a Professional
If you're not comfortable working with electrical circuits or if you're unable to diagnose the problem, consult a qualified electrician or robotics technician.
Important Safety Notes: Always disconnect power to the robot before working on any electrical components. Be careful when working with live circuits. Use appropriate safety precautions.* If you're unsure about anything, consult a qualified professional.Let me know if you have any other questions or can provide more information about the circuit. Good luck! Flag for review