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Topic: Trying to create a "Clip" type power solution to power dimmer switch

User: srwhitlock7, Location: Arizona

Asked on: Monday, March 17, 2025 at 1:00 pm EDT
Answered on: Monday, March 17, 2025 at 1:04 pm EDT

Question: Hello all and Thank you for any recommendations to start!I am trying to figure out how to power up Dimmer Switches without the need to physically connect lead wires for every switch time after time. I am wanting to be able to program multiples of these to Smart Home systems in upwards of 100 per day. In my head I have a thought of something this I think would work but cannot get the end result. I think that by running 18 guage wire into a box and be able to "liven" a clip type design will allow me to be able to press in the dimmer switch where the screws are clipped in. This in theory should be able to power the switch, allow me to be able to perform the programming and then pull the switch back out and be able to do this multiple times.I have the SnapPower faceplates in my house that utilize a similar method where the faceplate clips onto the outlet and is able to power the lights on the faceplate. I want to create something like this, but backwards. Where the clips will be live with a switch to power on and off but will be able to power any receptacle that is pushed into the gang box when the power is live.Sorry if I talked in circles there, but hopefully I can get a few ideas from you to try and figure out something.Thank you again,Shayne

Okay, Shayne, I understand what you're trying to do. You're looking for a way to quickly and repeatedly power up dimmer switches for programming without having to constantly wire and unwire them. Your "clip" idea is definitely the right direction. Here's a breakdown of considerations and a few potential solutions, keeping safety as the utmost priority

Key Considerations & Safety (IMPORTANT):
Safety is Paramount

Working with mains voltage (120V in the US, 230V in Europe) is dangerous. Any solution
must be properly insulated, fused, and protected against accidental contact. Building something that someone could easily touch live wires is a recipe for disaster.

If you are not comfortable and knowledgable with electricity, consult a licensed electrician to design and build this for you.
Current Capacity

Dimmer switches can draw a fair amount of current, especially at startup. You need to make sure your wiring, clips, and power supply are rated for the expected load. Check the specifications of the dimmer switches you're using.

Neutral & Ground

Dimmer switches require not only Line (Hot) and Load, but also Neutral and Ground connections for safety and proper operation. Your "clip" system needs to accommodate all these.


Universal Compatibility

Dimmer switches have varying wiring layouts. While you might use a specific brand, your test fixture should ideally be adaptable to different switch terminal locations.

Durability

Repeated insertion and removal of the switches will wear down the clips or connectors. Choose robust materials and design for frequent use.


Testing

Thoroughly test your solution before deploying it for mass programming. Check for shorts, proper grounding, and current draw.

Potential Solutions

Here are a few approaches, ranging from simplest to more complex:1.

Modified Outlet Box (Simplest, but requires modification)



Description

Use a standard single-gang electrical box. Instead of permanently wiring an outlet, terminate the wires to screw terminals.


Implementation

Mount the box to a sturdy base. Wire the line (hot), neutral, and ground wires to separate terminal blocks inside the box. Make sure these are rated for the voltage and current.

Carefully
connect short lengths of appropriately sized wire from each terminal to individual "screw" terminals on the switch (wire gauge that matches switch and rated for switch). Crucially

Create a safety cover for the box that prevents accidental contact with the terminals. A hinged lid or clear acrylic cover would work. You could modify a standard outlet cover plate for this purpose. Mount the switch in the "gang" and make sure you're not touching the wiring or the frame of the box. Add a fused power switch in line to the hot wire to safely turn the power on and off.

Advantages

Relatively simple and inexpensive.


Disadvantages

You still need to screw the wires onto the switch each time.

Safety Notes

Double-check all wiring and insulation. The box
must be properly grounded.2.

Spring-Loaded Pogo Pin Fixture (More Advanced, better contact)



Description

A custom-built fixture using spring-loaded pogo pins to make contact with the screw terminals on the dimmer switch.

Implementation

Create a platform or jig that holds the dimmer switch securely in place. Position pogo pins (available from electronics suppliers like Digi-Key or Mouser) so they align with the screw terminals on the switch. Wire the pogo pins to your power supply and ground. Use a lever or clamp mechanism to press the dimmer switch down onto the pogo pins to make contact. Enclose the fixture in a housing to prevent accidental contact with the live pins.

Advantages

Fast, repeatable contact. Less wear on the switch terminals.


Disadvantages

More complex to build. Requires precise alignment. Pogo pins can be expensive.

Safety Notes

Pogo pins need to be properly insulated. The enclosure
must be designed to prevent accidental contact. Use a fuse.3.

Custom Clip Connector (More Advanced, potentially best solution)



Description

Design a custom connector with spring-loaded clips that grab onto the screw terminals of the dimmer switch. This is closest to your original idea.

Implementation

This requires some mechanical design skills and possibly 3D printing or laser cutting. Design clips that are shaped to fit securely around the screw terminals of your target dimmer switches. Ensure good contact. Use spring-loaded mechanisms to apply pressure and maintain a reliable connection. Wire the clips to your power supply and ground. Enclose the entire assembly in an insulated housing.

Advantages

Fast, reliable contact. Can be designed to be very durable.


Disadvantages

Most complex to design and build. Requires specialized tools and materials.

Safety Notes

Clips must be properly insulated. The housing
must be robust and prevent accidental contact. Use a fuse.

Essential Components



Power Supply

A bench power supply with adjustable voltage and current limiting is ideal. This allows you to start with a low voltage to test connections and prevent damage if there's a short.

Fuse

Inline fuse on the hot wire is mandatory. Choose a fuse rating appropriate for the dimmer switches you're using (slightly above the maximum current draw).


Wiring

Use appropriately sized wire for the current. 18 gauge is probably okay for most dimmer switches, but check the specs. Use stranded wire for flexibility.

Safety Enclosure

The entire setup
must be enclosed in a non-conductive housing to prevent accidental contact with live parts.

Power Switch

A sturdy, fused power switch to turn the power on and off to the fixture.

General Tips



Start Small

Prototype your design with a single dimmer switch before scaling up.


Document Everything

Keep detailed records of your wiring, components, and design.

Test Thoroughly

Use a multimeter to check for voltage, continuity, and shorts at every stage of the process.


Consult Experts

If you're unsure about any aspect of the design or construction, consult a qualified electrician or electronics engineer.

Example Workflow using Modified Outlet Box


Assembly

Build the modified outlet box with the terminal blocks, short wires, and screw terminals for the dimmer switch.2.

Safety Check

Before connecting the power, visually inspect all wiring. Use a multimeter to check for continuity between neutral and ground, and for no continuity between hot and either neutral or ground.3.

Dimmer Switch Connection

Carefully connect the wires to the dimmer switch terminals.4.

Power Up

Turn on the power switch.5.

Program

Program the dimmer switch as needed.6.

Power Down

Turn off the power switch.7.

Disconnect

Carefully disconnect the wires from the dimmer switch.8.

Repeat

Repeat steps 3-7 for the next dimmer switch.

Important Disclaimer:


I am an AI assistant and cannot provide electrical safety advice. The information provided is for informational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for professional advice from a qualified electrician. Building and working with electrical circuits is inherently dangerous, and you are solely responsible for ensuring that your project is safe and complies with all applicable codes and regulations. Improperly constructed electrical circuits can cause fire, shock, and injury.By using this information, you agree to assume all risks associated with the construction and use of your project. Always prioritize safety and seek expert advice when in doubt. Flag for review

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