User: Therealcrt, Location: Kansas City
Asked on: Wednesday, March 19, 2025 at 11:19 am EDT
Answered on: Wednesday, March 19, 2025 at 11:19 am EDT
Question: Changing out old panels and an old three-story apartment complex. The feeder conduit is rigid, and they were using the raceway as an equipment grounding conductor when installed in the new panel that had concentric knockouts are bonding bushings required, even if it’s not the first means of disconnect.? Also we had to cut the rigid on the second floor that fed the third floor panel and had to convert to an inch and a quarter flex to re-feed the third floor panel because it was in the way when mounting the second floor panel. When transitioning to flex is that acceptable to still be used as an equipment grounding conductor.?
Okay, let's break down these scenarios regarding equipment grounding in your apartment complex panel upgrade
Scenario 1: Concentric Knockouts & Bonding Bushings
The Code
NEC 250.92 generally requires bonding for service equipment and 250.97 addresses bonding when concentric and eccentric knockouts are encountered in services.
Analysis
The key here is whether this is considered service equipment. While not the building service (main disconnect), a panel supplying multiple apartments might still be considered service equipment in some jurisdictions, especially if it's the first means of disconnect for those apartments.
If it's considered service equipment
If the new panels are being considered service equipment or are the first means of disconnect for any apartments (even if not the building service), NEC 250.92 & 250.97 likely applies. Bonding bushings and jumpers would be required to ensure a low-impedance ground fault path. The concentric knockouts create a potential discontinuity in the ground path.
If it's NOT considered service equipment
If the panel is definitively not the first means of disconnect for an apartment and isn't considered service equipment, the concentric knockouts are less of a strict code violation if the rigid conduit is properly tightened and makes good electrical contact to the enclosure. However, the best practice and often a local interpretation is to still use bonding bushings for added safety and to minimize impedance.
Recommendation
Err on the side of caution and use bonding bushings with jumpers. It's a small cost for increased safety and avoids potential issues during inspection. Even if not strictly required, it's a good practice. Also, ask the inspector!
Scenario 2: Rigid to Flex Transition and EGC The Code
NEC 250.118 lists acceptable types of equipment grounding conductors.
Analysis
The acceptability of using flex (flexible metal conduit - FMC) as an equipment grounding conductor depends on the following:
Size
A 1 1/4" FMC, if listed for grounding purposes, can be used as an equipment grounding conductor if it meets the size requirements of 250.122. You'll need to consult Table 250.122 based on the overcurrent device protecting the circuit. A 1 1/4" FMC probably has sufficient capacity, but you MUST verify.
Fittings
You must use fittings listed for grounding purposes. Standard connectors may not provide a reliable ground path.
Length
There are no explicit length limitations in the NEC for using FMC as an EGC for feeders but the longer the flex conduit the more impedance it will add.
A Safer and More Common Alternative
Install a separate equipment grounding conductor inside the flex conduit. This is generally the better practice. Pull a properly sized insulated green (or green with yellow stripe) grounding conductor (based on 250.122) through the flex. Terminate it properly at both ends (panel and whatever is being fed).
Why a Separate Grounding Conductor is Preferred
Reliability
Provides a dedicated, low-impedance ground path.
Flex Fatigue
Flexible metal conduit can be subject to movement and corrosion over time, which can compromise its grounding capability. A separate grounding conductor eliminates that risk.
Future Changes
If the flex is ever replaced (perhaps with a non-metallic conduit), the grounding conductor is already in place.
In Summary
Concentric Knockouts
Strongly consider bonding bushings with jumpers for the new panels, especially if they are considered service equipment. It's best practice and may be required. Consult with your local inspector.2.
Rigid to Flex
Verify 1 1/4" FMC can be used as an EGC, but strongly consider pulling a separate, appropriately sized insulated equipment grounding conductor through the flex conduit. This is generally the best and safest practice.
Important Considerations
Local Codes and Interpretations
Electrical codes can be interpreted differently by local jurisdictions. Always consult with your local electrical inspector before starting work. They can provide specific guidance for your area.
Qualified Electrician
This type of work should only be performed by a licensed and qualified electrician who is familiar with the NEC and local codes.
Documentation: Document everything, including the grounding methods you used. This will be helpful for future maintenance and inspections.This information is for guidance only and should not be considered a substitute for professional electrical advice. Safety first! Flag for review