User: designer82, Location: Boston
Asked on: Tuesday, March 25, 2025 at 10:35 am EDT
Answered on: Tuesday, March 25, 2025 at 10:35 am EDT
Question: So I am designing lighting layout for large warehouse.I am wondering which framing members, purlins, can the chain hung high bay fixtures mount to. Any available purlin?These are chain hung fixtures, specifically T1-HBLED seriesMainly, would you coordinate with the structural framing plans or just place the fixtures where necessary and assume the electrician can mount to that location, whether there is a framing member directly above fixture or not?Thanks
Okay, let's break down the considerations for mounting high bay fixtures in a warehouse, specifically the T1-HBLED series, and how to approach the structural coordination.
Understanding the Challenges Weight and Vibration
High bay fixtures, even LEDs, can be relatively heavy. The mounting needs to be robust to support the weight long-term, especially considering potential vibrations from forklifts or other warehouse activities.
Purlin Spacing and Orientation
Purlins run perpendicular to the primary structural beams (girders or rafters). Their spacing is crucial. Typically, purlins are spaced based on the roof or wall cladding system's needs and might not align perfectly with your ideal lighting layout.
Loading and Structural Capacity
Purlins are designed to carry specific loads (mostly roof loads). Adding concentrated weight from lighting needs to be considered, even if it seems small. Too many fixtures concentrated on a single purlin could potentially overload it.
Accessibility
The electrician needs to be able to safely access the mounting point to install and maintain the fixtures.
Aesthetics and Uniformity
While functional, you want the lighting to be as uniform and aesthetically pleasing as possible. This means consistent fixture spacing.
Code Compliance
Local building codes will dictate requirements for electrical installations, including support and securement of fixtures.
Addressing Your Questions1. "Which framing members, purlins, can the chain-hung high bay fixtures mount to? Any available purlin?" Generally, NO, you can't just assume any purlin is suitable. Suitable Purlins
Purlins specifically designed to support auxiliary loads should be used. Verify purlin load ratings with the structural engineer.
Need to Verify
The load ratings and load carrying capacity of the purlins would need to be determined by the structural engineer.
Not suitable
A purlin could need to be replaced with an upgraded structural member, which could become quite costly.
Manufacturer's Recommendations
Consult the T1-HBLED series manufacturer's installation instructions. They may have specific recommendations for mounting hardware and acceptable support structures.2.
"Mainly, would you coordinate with the structural framing plans or just place the fixtures where necessary and assume the electrician can mount to that location, whether there is a framing member directly above the fixture or not?" ABSOLUTELY coordinate with the structural framing plans and a structural engineer. This is non-negotiable for a safe and code-compliant installation. Never assume the electrician can just "make it work."Recommended Approach
Here's a step-by-step process to design your warehouse lighting layout:1. Initial Lighting Design
Determine Lighting Levels
Calculate the required foot-candles (lux) for the different areas of the warehouse (storage, aisles, loading docks, offices, etc.). Consult industry standards for recommended lighting levels.
Fixture Spacing
Based on the chosen fixture (T1-HBLED), its light output (lumens), and the required foot-candles, determine the optimal fixture spacing for uniform illumination. Use lighting design software (like Dialux or AGI32) for accurate calculations.
Preliminary Layout
Create a preliminary lighting layout showing the proposed fixture locations. Don't worry too much about the exact structural alignment at this stage, but be aware of the overall bay sizes and purlin directions.2.
Structural Coordination (Critical Step)
Obtain Structural Plans
Get the complete structural framing plans for the warehouse. This includes the location of main beams (girders, rafters), purlins, and their sizes and spacing.
Consult with a Structural Engineer
Engage a qualified structural engineer. Provide them with: Your preliminary lighting layout. The specifications for the T1-HBLED fixtures, including weight. The structural framing plans. Any relevant code requirements.
Engineer's Assessment
The structural engineer will: Review the purlin sizes and spacing. Calculate the load capacity of the purlins. Determine if the proposed fixture locations can be supported by the existing purlins without exceeding their load capacity. Identify areas where reinforcement or alternative mounting methods are needed.3.
Refine the Lighting Layout (Based on Structural Feedback)
Adjust Fixture Locations
Based on the structural engineer's recommendations, adjust the fixture locations to align with suitable purlins or to avoid overloading specific members.
Reinforcement Options
If direct purlin mounting isn't feasible, discuss reinforcement options with the structural engineer. Possible solutions include:
Adding supplemental bracing to the purlins. Using Unistrut or similar channel systems spanning between multiple purlins to distribute the load. Attaching to the main structural beams (girders/rafters)
This may require longer chains and careful consideration of aesthetics.
Alternative Mounting Methods
Explore alternative mounting methods, such as:
Wire Rope Suspension
Using wire rope to suspend fixtures from the main structure, distributing the load over a larger area.
Surface Mounting
If appropriate, consider surface mounting fixtures directly to the roof deck if it has sufficient load-bearing capacity (requires structural engineer approval).4.
Final Design and Documentation
Detailed Drawings
Create detailed lighting plans showing the final fixture locations, mounting details, and any required structural modifications.
Specifications
Include specifications for all mounting hardware, including the type and size of chains, connectors, and any reinforcing materials.
Structural Engineer's Stamp
Ensure the structural engineer stamps and approves the final drawings, certifying that the design meets all applicable codes and safety standards.5.
Installation
Follow Approved Plans
The electrician must follow the approved drawings and specifications precisely.
Inspection
Have the installation inspected by a qualified electrical inspector to ensure compliance with all codes.
Important Considerations
Fire Safety
Ensure the mounting methods maintain the fire rating of the roof assembly.
Accessibility for Maintenance
Consider how fixtures will be accessed for maintenance and bulb replacement.
Future Expansion
Think about the potential for future expansion or changes in the warehouse layout. Leave some flexibility in the lighting design if possible.*
Energy Efficiency
Consider adding occupancy sensors or dimming controls to further reduce energy consumption.
In summary, don't take shortcuts. Coordinate with a structural engineer, obtain the necessary permits, and ensure the installation is done by qualified professionals. Safety and code compliance should be your top priorities. Flag for review