User: ritelec, Location: Jersey
Asked on: Thursday, March 27, 2025 at 4:22 am EDT
Answered on: Thursday, March 27, 2025 at 4:25 am EDT
Question: Hi,I'm looking to install a Dishwasher circuit and a Appliance circuit in a kitchen.The panel is a 63 yr old pushmatic. (Bulldog?)Does pushmatic make a arcfault breaker? I can't find one if they do.Can I install regular 20 amp 120 volt breakers and go through arc fault deadfront devices instead the arcfault breakers at the panel location?If not, would installing a subpanel with the arcfault breakers be acceptable? ( provided I can find a two pole 50 or 60 amp pushmatic breaker)Thank you
Okay, let's break down the situation with your Pushmatic panel and the need for arc-fault and dedicated appliance circuits in your kitchen. Dealing with older electrical systems requires extra caution and understanding of the code.1. Pushmatic and Arc-Fault Breakers
No Direct Arc-Fault Breakers
You are correct. Pushmatic (BullDog) did not make arc-fault circuit interrupters (AFCIs). You will not find a direct replacement AFCI breaker for your Pushmatic panel. This is a very common problem with older panels.
2. Using Deadfront Arc-Fault Devices
NEC Compliance Challenges
While technically possible to install deadfront AFCI devices (outlets or in-line devices) downstream of a standard breaker, it is
not generally considered compliant for new or substantially renovated kitchen circuits under the current National Electrical Code (NEC). NEC Intent
The intent of the AFCI requirement is to protect the entire circuit, including the wiring in the walls, from arc faults. Deadfront devices only protect downstream of their location. The idea is to try to find the arc and shut the breaker off.
Inspection Issues
You are likely to have difficulty passing inspection using this method, as the inspector may not consider it a true equivalent to a breaker-based AFCI.
3. Subpanel Installation (Your Best Option)
This is generally the recommended and most code-compliant solution. Here's how it works:1. Find a Compatible Pushmatic Breaker
You will need to find a 2-pole Pushmatic breaker (50 or 60 amp, depending on the size of the subpanel you choose) to feed the subpanel. These can often be found online from electrical supply houses specializing in older equipment or from reputable used electrical equipment dealers. Make sure the breaker is in good working condition, and have it tested if possible before installation.2.
Install the Subpanel
Install a new subpanel near the existing Pushmatic panel (or in the kitchen area, if that's more convenient). The subpanel will be fed by the 2-pole Pushmatic breaker.3.
Install AFCI Breakers in the Subpanel
In the new subpanel, install the appropriate AFCI breakers for your new kitchen circuits:
Dishwasher Circuit
Typically a 20-amp, 120-volt circuit with AFCI protection.
Appliance Circuits
Typically (depending on the load of the applianaces), 20-amp, 120-volt circuits with AFCI protection. You will most likely need two 20-amp small appliance branch circuits (SABC).4.
Bonding and Grounding
Ensure proper bonding and grounding of the subpanel according to the NEC. This is crucial for safety. Consult with an electrician if you are unsure about grounding and bonding requirements.
Important Considerations and Recommendations
Professional Installation
This project involves working with electricity and can be dangerous. I strongly recommend hiring a licensed electrician to perform the work. They have the expertise to do the job safely and in compliance with local codes. Code Compliance
Electrical codes vary by location (city, county, state). Your electrician will be familiar with the specific codes in your area. Ensure that all work is performed to meet or exceed those codes.
Panel Condition
Given the age of your Pushmatic panel, it's worth having an electrician inspect it for any signs of deterioration, corrosion, or damage. Older panels can become a safety hazard. It may be wise to consider replacing the entire panel if it's showing its age, even though that is much more costly.
Aluminum Wiring
Be aware that some older homes have aluminum wiring. If your home does, there are specific requirements for connecting copper wiring (which is used in most new circuits) to aluminum wiring. An electrician will know how to handle this safely.
Permits
Obtain the necessary electrical permits before starting any work. This will ensure that the work is inspected and meets code requirements.
In summary: While deadfront AFCI devices might seem like a workaround, a subpanel with AFCI breakers provides the best and most code-compliant solution for your situation. It's also an opportunity to improve the safety and reliability of your kitchen electrical system. Always prioritize safety and code compliance when working with electricity! Flag for review