User: S&W, Location: MO
Asked on: Wednesday, April 2, 2025 at 10:06 pm EDT
Answered on: Wednesday, April 2, 2025 at 10:07 pm EDT
Question: Doing a new build and need to mount the 400a meter and 2 200a disconnects on the outside. Right now it’s just zip sheathing up. GC wants meter and panels up before the brick. It will be 3 1/2” brick with a 1” gap so a total of about 4 1/2” from the sheathing to the face of the brick.All my other new construction jobs to this point have been in vinyl, metal, or wood/ hardie siding.I need the panel back to be flush with the eventual brick and am having a heck of a time finding any ideas.Should I just make a frame out of 2x4’s with 1” or 3/4” plywood over it so it sits the right distance away from the sheathing?I’d appreciate any help.
Okay, this is a common challenge. You're right to think ahead about the brick standoff. Here's a breakdown of how to approach this, incorporating best practices and addressing the issues you've raised
Understanding the Problem:
Standoff
You need to create a solid, weatherproof standoff of 4.5" from the sheathing for the meter base and disconnects. This standoff needs to be strong enough to support the weight and any potential stresses (weather, service cable tension).
Flush Mount
You want the front of the meter base and disconnects to be flush with the finished brick surface. This provides a clean, professional look.
Weatherproofing
This is outside, so EVERYTHING needs to be weathertight to prevent water damage and potential electrical hazards.
Code Compliance
Absolutely critical. Your installation must meet local electrical codes. This includes working space clearances and proper grounding.
Solutions and Recommendations
Here's the most common and effective approach, building upon your 2x4 frame idea, but with some key improvements:1.
The Frame (Key to Success)
Material
Use pressure-treated lumber for the frame. This is crucial for longevity and to resist rot from moisture that will inevitably get behind the brick. 2x6 is better than 2x4, use 2x6
Construction
Build a rectangular frame that is slightly larger than the footprint of your meter base and the combined footprint of your two disconnects. You need room to attach the frame securely to the wall.
Depth
The critical part. Your frame needs to be 4.5" deep (or very slightly more, depending on the lip of your meter/disconnects).
Corners
Strong, well-constructed corners are vital. Use screws rated for exterior use for the frame.
Mounting
Make sure you have plenty of room to attach it to the wall securely.
Plywood Sheathing (Front of Frame)
Use exterior-grade plywood (like ACX or BCX) at least 3/4" thick. Cut this plywood to match the outer dimensions of the frame. This will be the "face" that the meter base and disconnects mount to. Attach the plywood to the frame securely with exterior-grade screws.2.
Attachment to the Wall
Location
Carefully plan the location, considering the service drop location, conduit runs, and clearances.
Fasteners
Use heavy-duty lag screws or structural screws of appropriate length to penetrate the sheathing AND go into the wall studs. Don't rely on just the sheathing for support.
Spacing
Space the screws adequately (e.g., every 12-16 inches) to distribute the load evenly.
Weatherproofing
Before attaching the frame, apply a generous bead of high-quality exterior caulk (silicone or polyurethane) to the back of the frame where it will contact the sheathing. This seals against water intrusion.3.
Mounting the Meter Base and Disconnects
Pilot Holes
Drill pilot holes through the plywood for the mounting screws for the meter base and disconnects.
Hardware
Use stainless steel screws or bolts to mount the meter base and disconnects.
Grounding
Pay extremely close attention to grounding. The meter base and disconnects must be properly grounded. Refer to your local codes for the correct grounding methods.
Wiring
Make sure you have sufficient wiring to make all connections comfortably.4.
Weatherproofing (Critical)
Caulk
Apply caulk around the perimeter of the meter base and disconnects where they meet the plywood.
Drip Loop
Ensure your service cable has a proper drip loop to prevent water from running down the cable and into the meter base.
Conduit Seals
Use proper sealing fittings where conduits enter the meter base and disconnects to prevent water ingress.5.
Coordination with the Brick Mason
Clear Communication
Talk to the brick mason about the finished location. They need to know that the meter and disconnects must be flush with the brick surface.
Potential for Adjustments
There is always a small chance of variation, so I would make the box slightly deeper so you have options to shave down if needed.
Important Considerations
Local Codes
I cannot stress this enough. Contact your local building department and electrical inspector before you start. They can provide specific requirements and may have preferred methods for mounting electrical equipment on brick walls.
Service Cable Size
Ensure the service cable is adequately sized for the load.
Working Space
Maintain the required working space clearances around the meter and disconnects (typically 3 feet in front and adequate side space). This is a code requirement.
Electrical Safety
If you are not a qualified electrician, do not attempt this work. Electrical work can be dangerous and requires specialized knowledge and skills.
Overhang
You might consider adding a small roof or overhang to protect the meter and disconnects from direct rain and sun.
Why This Approach is Best
Solid Support
The frame provides a stable and strong base for the meter base and disconnects.
Weatherproof
The use of pressure-treated lumber, exterior plywood, and proper caulking creates a weatherproof installation.
Flush Mount
It allows you to achieve the desired flush-mount look with the brick.
Code Compliant
It allows you to meet code requirements for grounding, working space, and weatherproofing.
In Summary:
Don't take shortcuts on this. A well-built and properly installed mounting system will ensure the longevity and safety of your electrical service. Consult with your local inspector, follow the steps outlined above, and prioritize quality materials and workmanship. If you are not 100% comfortable with any aspect of this, hire a qualified electrician. Flag for review