User: Dadster1, Location: 48039
Asked on: Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 8:57 pm EDT
Answered on: Sunday, April 6, 2025 at 9:22 pm EDT
Question: I am looking for ideas on a water pressure issue. I have a well with a whole house RO system. I am getting a lot of gas bubbles being drawn up the pump. So much so occasionally (once a week) the well pump pressure drops down to 3-5 psi and with the pump running, fails to get back to the 50 psi I need. When I notice the pressure drop, I shut the well down for 1 hour, turn it back on and I'm usually good for a week. My question is: If this happens when my RO is calling for water, it is not getting nearly enough, and I need a way to shut off the RO. I was hoping there is some type of switch out there that could detect when I lose water pressure and then shut down the 110 supplied to the RO. I have done small electrical jobs but I'm not familiar with anything available for this application. The RO has a low-pressure shutoff, but it hasn't worked in many years and the company was in Tiawan and out of business. Thanks for any help.
Okay, this is a tricky situation, but a very common one with wells that are pulling in air. The low pressure is damaging your RO system and potentially your well pump. You're on the right track with the idea of an electrical shutoff. Here's a breakdown of how to approach this, along with some options and considerations
Understanding the Problem:
Air in the Well
The root cause of the problem needs to be addressed eventually. Air can be coming from: A leak in the drop pipe (the pipe going down into the well). A low water table, causing the pump to pull in air as the well is drawn down. Gas Dissolved in Groundwater: In certain areas, gases like methane, nitrogen, or carbon dioxide can be dissolved in the groundwater and come out of solution under the pressure changes of the pump.
Well Pump Damage
Continuously running the pump when it's drawing in air can lead to premature pump failure. Pumps are designed to move water, not air.
RO System Damage
Insufficient pressure and air bubbles can damage the RO membrane and other components.
Solutions for Your Immediate Problem (RO Shutoff)
You're right, you need a device that will cut power to the RO system when the pressure drops below a certain threshold. Here are your options:1.
Pressure Switch (Best Option)
How it Works
A pressure switch is designed to open or close an electrical circuit based on the sensed pressure. You would wire it inline with the 110V power supply to your RO system. When the pressure drops below your set point (say, 40 psi), the switch opens, cutting power to the RO. When the pressure recovers, the switch closes, restoring power.
Key Features to Look For
Adjustable Set Point
You need to be able to adjust the pressure at which the switch trips.
Range
Ensure the pressure range of the switch covers your desired operating pressure (e.g., 0-100 psi).
Voltage and Amperage Rating
The switch must be rated to handle the voltage (110V in your case) and amperage draw of your RO system. Look at the RO's label for power consumption (watts or amps). Choose a switch rated higher than your RO's requirements.
Normally Closed (NC) vs. Normally Open (NO)
You want a
normally closed (NC) switch. This means that in its normal state (pressure above the set point), the switch is closed, allowing power to flow. When the pressure drops, the switch opens, cutting power. 1/4" NPT connection is common
Make sure to purchase the fittings needed to connect the pressure switch in-line with your water supply line.
Installation
Disconnect Power
Very Important! Turn off the breaker supplying power to your RO system before doing any electrical work.2. Locate Suitable Pipe
Find a section of pipe in your water line before the RO unit.3.
Install a Tee Fitting
Cut the pipe and install a Tee fitting.4.
Connect the Pressure Switch
Connect the pressure switch to the Tee fitting. Use Teflon tape on the threads to ensure a watertight seal.5.
Wire the Switch
Cut the hot (black) wire going to your RO system. Connect the two ends of the cut wire to the terminals on the pressure switch. Ensure all connections are secure and properly insulated.6.
Set the Pressure
Adjust the pressure setting on the switch to your desired low-pressure cutoff point.7.
Test
Restore power to the RO system and monitor the pressure. Verify that the RO shuts off when the pressure drops below the set point and turns back on when it recovers.
Where to Buy
You can find pressure switches at plumbing supply stores, hardware stores (like Home Depot or Lowe's), or online retailers like Amazon. Search for "adjustable pressure switch 110v."2.
Low-Pressure Switch with Relay (More Complex, but potentially better control)
How it Works
Similar to the pressure switch above, but instead of directly switching the 110V, it switches a low-voltage signal that controls a relay. The relay then handles the high-voltage switching of the RO power.
Why Use a Relay? Safety
Low-voltage switching is safer to work with.
Flexibility
Allows for more complex control schemes in the future (e.g., adding a delay timer to prevent the RO from turning back on immediately after a pressure drop).
Components
Low-Pressure Switch (12V or 24V DC) Relay (110V coil, rated for the RO's amperage) Power Supply (to power the low-pressure switch and relay coil, if needed)
Wiring
This is a more involved wiring project and requires a good understanding of low-voltage and high-voltage circuits. Consult a qualified electrician if you are not comfortable with this.
Addressing the Root Cause
While the electrical shutoff will protect your RO system, it's crucial to address the underlying problem of air in the well.1.
Well Inspection
Have a qualified well technician inspect your well system. They can: Check the depth of the well and the static water level. Inspect the drop pipe for leaks. Evaluate the pump's performance. Check for mineral buildup or other issues.2.
Possible Solutions (Depending on the Cause)
Lower the Pump
If the water table is low, lowering the pump further into the well might help.
Repair or Replace the Drop Pipe
If there's a leak, the drop pipe needs to be repaired or replaced.
Flow Restrictor
Installing a flow restrictor can prevent the pump from working harder than it needs to and drawing in air.
Snifter Valve
Install a snifter valve on the well supply line to automatically vent any air that comes up.
Pressure Relief Valve
Install a pressure relief valve.
Increase Well Size
If the problem is that the pump is drawing the well down too quickly, a larger well may be required.
Important Safety Considerations
Always disconnect power before working on any electrical components. If you're not comfortable with electrical wiring, hire a qualified electrician. Make sure all connections are secure and properly insulated. Never work on a well system without understanding the risks and taking appropriate safety precautions. Well work may require permits. Check with your local authorities.
By installing a pressure-activated shutoff switch for your RO system and addressing the root cause of the air in your well, you can protect your equipment, improve your water quality, and avoid costly repairs in the future. Good luck! Flag for review