User: Maxxy41, Location: New Jersey
Asked on: Monday, April 21, 2025 at 9:44 pm EDT
Answered on: Monday, April 21, 2025 at 10:02 pm EDT
Question: Pseg NJDoes anyone have any experience or recommendations for recessing a 200 amp meter socket into the exterior wall of a buildingIt’s a pole barn so the interior framing is not an issueAll the requirements I’ve found are about height and unobstructed area in front of the meter locationThe meter is currently in a breezeway and I’d like to recess the box so it’s not sticking out so farI’m assuming the service drop would have to be in conduit but that wouldn’t be an issue eitherThe main panel will be only a few feet away so the load side would be easy tooI’m picturing a recessed pocket in the wall sided and water tight just like the current siding. Large enough to have 4-6 inches of room/gap all the way around the box so there’s no problem for future repair
Okay, let's break down the process and considerations for recessing a 200 amp meter socket with PSE&G in New Jersey. You've got the right idea, but there are some critical points to address to ensure it's done safely and meets both electrical code and PSE&G's requirements.
Key Considerations and Recommendations
PSE&G's Requirements are Paramount
This is the most important point. Before you lift a hammer, contact PSE&G. They have specific requirements for meter socket installations. They may not allow recessing at all, or they might have very specific instructions.
Who to Contact
Call PSE&G's customer service line and ask to speak with someone in their service installation or metering department. Explain what you want to do and get their pre-approval in writing if possible. Document the conversation even if written documentation is not available
Key Questions to Ask PSE&G
Is recessing a meter socket permissible? What are the specific height requirements for the meter? (They are typically strict about this.) What are the clearance requirements around the meter? (You're thinking 4-6 inches, but verify that is correct) What type of meter socket do they require (brand, model, or specifications)? What are the requirements for the service entrance conductors from the point of attachment to the meter, and from the meter to the panel? (Conduit type, burial depth if applicable, etc.) Do they have specific requirements for the backing material behind the meter socket (material, size, thickness)? Will they inspect before you cover up the installation? (This is crucial to avoid rework.)2.
Electrical Code (NEC) Compliance
Even if PSE&G allows it, the installation must also meet the National Electrical Code (NEC) as adopted by New Jersey.
Key NEC Considerations
Working Space
You must have sufficient working space in front of the meter socket. This means adequate depth, width, and headroom. The NEC dictates the specific dimensions based on voltage and amperage. Your 4-6 inch gap around the box doesn't address this.
Accessibility
The meter must be readily accessible for PSE&G personnel to read and maintain. A recessed location could potentially hinder access.
Enclosure Type
The meter socket enclosure itself must be rated for outdoor use (NEMA 3R or better).
Service Entrance Conductors
The conductors from the service drop to the meter, and from the meter to the panel, must be appropriately sized for the 200 amp service and protected by conduit. Conduit must be properly secured and supported.
Grounding
Proper grounding and bonding of the meter socket enclosure is essential for safety.
Overcurrent Protection
Make sure the main breaker in your panel is rated appropriately for the service (200 amps).3.
Construction of the Recessed Pocket
Waterproofing
This is absolutely critical. The recessed pocket must be completely watertight to prevent water from entering the wall cavity and damaging the structure or electrical equipment.
Materials
Use pressure-treated lumber or other weather-resistant materials for the framing of the pocket. Consider using a membrane (like Ice & Water Shield) on the interior of the pocket for added protection.
Siding Integration
Seamlessly integrate the siding around the recessed pocket to maintain the building's weather tightness and aesthetic appeal. Use proper flashing and caulking to prevent water penetration.
Support
The meter socket is heavy, especially with wiring. Ensure the framing of the recessed pocket is strong enough to support the weight of the meter socket and associated conduit and wiring.
Ventilation
Consider whether the pocket needs any ventilation to prevent moisture buildup. This might be necessary in some climates.4.
Conduit Considerations
Type
Use rigid metal conduit (RMC), intermediate metal conduit (IMC), or schedule 80 PVC conduit for the service entrance conductors. (Check with PSE&G to confirm their preference).
Sealing
Properly seal the conduit entries into the meter socket and the panel to prevent moisture and insect entry.
Support
Securely support the conduit at appropriate intervals.
Bends
Minimize bends in the conduit runs to make pulling the conductors easier.5.
Wiring
Conductor Size
Use the correct size conductors for a 200 amp service, based on the NEC (typically 4/0 copper or 250 kcmil aluminum).
Insulation
Use conductors with the appropriate insulation rating for outdoor use (e.g., THHN/THWN).
Connections
Make all connections inside the meter socket and panel with approved connectors and tighten them to the manufacturer's specified torque.
Steps to Take
Contact PSE&G Immediately. This is the most important step. Get their specific requirements and approval.2. Consult with a Licensed Electrician. Unless you have extensive experience with electrical work and a thorough understanding of the NEC, hire a qualified and licensed electrician. They will be familiar with local codes and PSE&G requirements. They can also pull any necessary permits.3. Develop a Detailed Plan. Work with the electrician to create a detailed plan that includes: The dimensions of the recessed pocket. The type of materials to be used. The conduit routing. The wiring diagram.4. Obtain Permits. Make sure all necessary electrical permits are obtained before starting any work.5. Install the Recessed Pocket. Carefully construct the recessed pocket, paying close attention to waterproofing and structural support.6. Install the Conduit and Meter Socket. Install the conduit and meter socket according to the approved plan and the manufacturer's instructions.7. Wire the Meter Socket and Panel. Have the electrician wire the meter socket and panel, ensuring all connections are properly made and torqued.8. Inspection. Call for an inspection by the local electrical inspector. Do not cover up the installation until it has been inspected and approved.9. Contact PSE&G for Meter Installation. Once the electrical inspection is complete, contact PSE&G to schedule the installation of the meter.
Potential Problems and Considerations
PSE&G Rejection
PSE&G might simply not allow you to recess the meter. Be prepared for this possibility.
Cost
This project will be more expensive than a simple surface-mounted meter socket due to the extra construction work involved.
Complexity
It's a more complex project than it initially seems, requiring careful planning and execution.
Future Maintenance
Make sure there is sufficient room around the meter for future maintenance or replacement.
In summary, recessing a meter socket is a complex project that requires careful planning, attention to detail, and compliance with all applicable codes and regulations. Start by contacting PSE&G to get their specific requirements and approval, and then hire a licensed electrician to handle the electrical work. Good luck! Flag for review