User: 4-20mA, Location: Charleston SC
Asked on: Wednesday, April 23, 2025 at 3:30 pm EDT
Answered on: Wednesday, April 23, 2025 at 3:31 pm EDT
Question: In a stand alone system...I've never used these or tried this, but trying to figure it out now. Using batteries to operate a very remote gate. Anyway, should I use a bigger controller to utilize more amp from parralleling the charger panels?I *think* I need to take out the third battery AND add the second panel to get 70Ah capacity on a full charge.100W panel at optimum power (5hrs good sun per day) yields 500Wh/day(100W * 5hr = 500Wh)12V * (35Ah * 3batt) = 1260whwhich means that even with two panels (1000Wh) I can't charge all three batteriesso...2 panels (in parallel, I think, to maintain the voltage and add the current) should yield 1000WhPanel: 12V @ 100W -> 1000Wh/dayBatt: 12V * (35Ah * 2batt) = 840WhProvided that the charge controller can handle the amps that should do it. Trying to figure out the amps:--------------------------------- Panels In Parallel -V * A = W12V * X amp = 200W (both panels in parallel)X = 17Amp available17 * 1.25 safety factor = 20.83 ampSo would I need a 50amp controller then or a 20amp DC breaker? What say you
Okay, let's break down your calculations and address your questions about the charge controller and breaker. You're on the right track!Understanding the Issues Battery Capacity vs. Daily Needs
You're correctly calculating the total capacity of your batteries in Wh. The critical question is: what's the daily energy consumption of your gate opener? This determines how much energy you need to replenish each day.
Panel Output
Your calculation of 500Wh/day per panel is based on 5 hours of "peak sun". This is a good starting point, but remember that real-world sunlight is rarely at its peak for the full 5 hours. Cloud cover, panel angle, and seasonal variations will all affect output.
Charge Controller Selection
The charge controller's job is to efficiently regulate the voltage and current from the solar panel(s) to the battery, preventing overcharging and maximizing battery lifespan.
Safety Factor
You're right to include a safety factor.
Let's Review and Refine Your Calculations1. Battery Bank Sizing
You're moving from 3 x 35Ah batteries to 2 x 35Ah batteries. Let's calculate the total capacity: 2 batteries 35Ah/battery = 70Ah total capacity 70Ah 12V = 840Wh total battery capacity2.
Panel Output
Two 100W panels in parallel provide 200W. You've assumed 5 hours of peak sun, resulting in 1000Wh. That's the ideal scenario. You need to be more realistic. It will also affect how long it takes to charge your batteries from a discharged state.
Peak Sun Hours
A more conservative estimate is often 3-4 hours of effective peak sun hours, depending on your location and time of year. Let's use 3.5 hours for now: 200W 3.5 hours = 700Wh3.
Energy Balance
Now, compare your battery capacity to the expected daily solar energy input: Battery Capacity: 840Wh Daily Solar Input (Estimated): 700WhThis suggests that on an average sunny day with 3.5 hours of effective peak sun, you should be able to replenish most of the energy consumed by the gate. However, this depends entirely on how much energy your gate uses.4.
Charge Controller Amperage
This is where your question is focused.
Parallel Panels
You're correct; connecting panels in parallel maintains the voltage (around 12V-18V for charging a 12V battery) and adds the current.
Panel Current
Each 100W panel at 12V produces approximately 8.33 Amps (100W / 12V = 8.33A).
Combined Current
Two panels in parallel will ideally produce 16.66 Amps (8.33A + 8.33A).
Safety Factor
Apply a safety factor of at least 25% (multiply by 1.25): 16.66A 1.25 = 20.83A
Therefore, you need a charge controller rated for at least 21 Amps, but I would round up to a 30 Amp Charge Controller. I would suggest a MPPT (Maximum Power Point Tracking) type Charge Controller due to the increase in efficiency.5. Breaker/Fuse
This is for protection in case of a short circuit or overcurrent situation.
Consider the Panel Wire Gauge
Select the wire gauge able to handle the maximum current.
Sizing
A breaker or fuse should be sized slightly higher than the maximum expected current. In your case, 20.83A is your expected maximum. So a 25A or 30A breaker or fuse would be appropriate. Place it between the panels and the charge controller (closer to the panels).
Important Considerations and Recommendations Gate Power Consumption
Measure the power consumption of your gate opener. Use a multimeter to measure the current draw during operation (opening and closing). Then, multiply the current (in Amps) by the voltage (12V) to get Watts. Multiply Watts by the number of operating cycles per day, the duty cycle, and the total time the gate is actively opening/closing per day.
Battery Chemistry
You haven't specified the battery chemistry. Lead-acid batteries should not be discharged below 50% of their capacity for optimal lifespan. Lithium batteries can handle deeper discharges, but require specific charging profiles. Ensure your charge controller is compatible with your battery type.
Monitor Performance
After installation, monitor the battery voltage regularly. If the batteries are consistently running low, you'll need to either reduce the gate's usage or increase the solar panel capacity. A simple voltmeter is sufficient.
PWM vs MPPT Charge Controllers
PWM (Pulse Width Modulation)
Simpler and less expensive, but less efficient, especially when the panel voltage is significantly higher than the battery voltage.
MPPT (Maximum Power Point Tracking)
More efficient at extracting the maximum power from the panels, especially in varying sunlight conditions. More expensive, but often worth the investment. I recommend MPPT.
Location, Location, Location
Panel placement is critical. Ensure they are facing south (in the northern hemisphere) at the optimal angle for your latitude to maximize sunlight capture.
Revised Plan (Example - Based on Assumptions)1. Panels
Two 100W panels connected in parallel.2.
Batteries
Two 35Ah 12V batteries (70Ah total) - Choose a chemistry suitable for solar applications (e.g., deep-cycle lead-acid or lithium).3.
Charge Controller
30A MPPT charge controller, compatible with your battery chemistry.4.
Breaker/Fuse
25A or 30A breaker or fuse between the panels and the charge controller.5.
Wiring
Use appropriately sized wire (gauge) for the current and distance.6.
Monitoring
Voltmeter to check battery voltage regularly.
Key Takeaway:
The most important factor is knowing the power consumption of your gate opener. Without that, you're just guessing. Once you have that number, you can accurately size the solar panel and battery system. And remember, err on the side of slightly more* solar capacity than you think you need, as it's better to have excess energy than to run out. Flag for review