User: KyawaComm
Asked on: Saturday, May 24, 2025 at 9:20 am EDT
Answered on: Saturday, May 24, 2025 at 9:21 am EDT
Question: I'm looking to have an interlock installed in my panel with a 50a breaker. I'm a little confused about the outputs of the generators with respect to 50a. I read that the max wattage for 50a is 12k and the recommended wattage is 80% or 9600. I was originally looking at a generator (NG) with surge/running outputs of 14400/11600. I'm now thinking that may be too large. Other articles say to oversize the generator. Also, the generator itself has a 50a breaker and if you run it on gas the outputs are 18000/14500, higher than the 12k. Can someone educate me? Thanks
You've hit on a point of common confusion when connecting generators to home panels via interlock kits! Let's break down the sizing and ratings to help you choose the right generator.
Understanding the Ratings and Limits
50A Breaker in Your Panel
This is the key limiting factor for the input to your panel from the generator. A 50A breaker at 240V (which is what most home panels use) can theoretically handle: `50A 240V = 12,000 Watts (12kW)`. That's the absolute maximum sustained wattage through that breaker.
80% Rule
The 80% rule for breakers is a safety guideline not a hard and fast rule. The main purpose is to prevent them from overheating and tripping unnecessarily, but it's a smart idea for generator connections. Applying the 80% rule would mean a recommended sustained load of 9600W (9.6kW) on your 50A breaker. You are right on this!
Generator Surge vs. Running Watts
Surge Watts
This is the maximum power the generator can provide for a very short period (typically just a few seconds) to start appliances with electric motors (like refrigerators, air conditioners, etc.). It's like a temporary power boost.
Running Watts
This is the continuous power the generator can supply for an extended period. This is the number that really matters when sizing for your panel and overall load.
Generator Output and Fuel (NG vs. Gasoline)
This is very common, and you pointed it out perfectly. Generators often produce more power when running on gasoline than on natural gas (NG) or propane (LP). This is because gasoline has a higher energy density. The manufacturer's specifications are the key here.
Why Your Initial Generator Choice (14400/11600 NG surge/running) Could Be Problematic, Even With a 50A Breaker
Exceeding the 50A Breaker
Your original NG generator with 11600 running watts (11.6kW) could potentially overload your 50A breaker if you try to draw that much power at the same time. Even though the breaker is designed to trip if overloaded, repeated overloads aren't good for the breaker.2.
Misunderstanding "Oversizing"
Oversizing is helpful for headroom. Oversizing the generator allows you to run a larger number of appliances simultaneously without constantly stressing the generator at its maximum capacity. It doesn't mean you should try to force more power through a 50A breaker than it can handle.3.
Generator Breaker vs. Interlock Breaker
The 50A breaker on the generator itself is there to protect the generator from being overloaded. It's independent of the 50A breaker you're installing in your panel for the interlock. The interlock breaker is the one that protects your home's electrical system.
What To Do
Calculate Your Load
The most important step. Make a list of the essential appliances and circuits you want to power during an outage. Add up their running wattages and their surge wattages. Focus on the running wattage total. Be realistic! If the loads are rarely run concurrently, you can account for that, but be conservative.2.
Prioritize Needs and Consider Load Management
You likely won't be able to run your entire house. Focus on essentials: refrigerator, lights, furnace (if you have one), maybe a TV or computer, and a small appliance or two. Consider load management – turning things off when you don't need them to avoid overloading.3.
Choose a Generator That Matches Your Load AND Stays Within the 50A Breaker Limit
Look for a generator (on NG or Gasoline, depending on your preference) with a running wattage that is comfortably below the 9600W (80% of 12kW) recommendation for your 50A breaker. Make sure the surge wattage is high enough to handle the starting loads of your motor-driven appliances (refrigerator, furnace fan, etc.).4.
Consider a Smaller Generator
If your calculated load is only, say, 6000-7000 running watts, you might be better off with a smaller generator that provides that power efficiently. A smaller generator will be more fuel-efficient.
Example Scenario
Let's say you need to power: Refrigerator: 600 running watts / 1800 surge watts Furnace (blower motor): 800 running watts / 2000 surge watts Lights: 500 running watts TV: 200 running watts Small Microwave: 800 running watts Total Running Watts: 2900You would want a generator with a running watts of about 3-3.5 kW to cover everything.
Important Considerations
Neutral Bonding
This is a critical safety issue. Consult with a qualified electrician to ensure your generator is properly bonded (or unbonded) for use with your interlock kit and your home's electrical system. Improper bonding can create a dangerous electrical hazard. Different generators have different setups, and your electrician will know the correct approach.
Interlock Kit Installation
This is not a DIY project. Hire a licensed electrician to install the interlock kit properly. They will ensure it's code-compliant and safe.
Permits
Check with your local building department about any permits required for installing an interlock kit or connecting a generator.
Generator Location
Place the generator outside in a well-ventilated area, away from windows and doors, to prevent carbon monoxide poisoning.
In Summary:
Focus on your calculated load and staying within the 50A breaker's safe* (80%) limit. Oversizing the generator for headroom is good, but not at the expense of exceeding the breaker's capacity. Choose a generator with sufficient surge capacity for your motor loads. Consult with a qualified electrician for installation and neutral bonding to ensure a safe and code-compliant setup. Flag for review