User: Stevenfyeager, Location: United States, Indiana
Asked on: Wednesday, June 11, 2025 at 2:06 am EDT
Answered on: Wednesday, June 11, 2025 at 2:13 am EDT
Question: Customer has Kidde wireless smoke/CO combos. (we installed 6 months ago). Alarms going off for no reason. This is the first customer to have issues. I returned them to Home Depot. They now have no wireless detectors even for sale ! Neither does our electrical supply store. They “pulled Kidde wireless from our shelves and are waiting for an alternative product.”Any of you having this problem? Some jobs are almost impossible to hardwire.Is there a brand you use ? Thank you.
Okay, this is a common and frustrating problem with wireless interconnected smoke/CO detectors. Here's a breakdown of what's likely happening and some alternative solutions
Understanding the Problem
False Alarms
Wireless interconnected systems are complex. There are many reasons why they can experience false alarms:
RF Interference
Wireless communication can be disrupted by other devices transmitting on similar frequencies (cordless phones, baby monitors, microwaves, even some LED lighting can cause interference.)
Weak Signal
Distance and obstructions (walls, metal) can weaken the signal between detectors, leading to missed signals and the system interpreting a loss of communication as an alarm trigger.
Environmental Factors
Dust, humidity, temperature fluctuations can affect the sensors, especially in some models of CO detectors.
Defective Units
It's possible you had a batch of detectors with a higher-than-normal failure rate.
Retailers Pulling Products
Home Depot and electrical supply houses are pulling the Kidde wireless product is a very important detail. When this happens, it usually indicates a widespread problem (like a recall or a known quality issue). They are likely awaiting clear guidance from the manufacturer or a viable alternative.
Challenges of Hardwiring
You are right. Many renovations or older homes make hardwiring incredibly difficult and costly.
Possible Solutions and Alternatives1. Contact Kidde Directly
This is your FIRST step.
Call their technical support
Explain the situation. They may be aware of a specific issue with the model you installed and have recommendations or a recall in place. Get a case number.
Escalate the issue
If the initial support isn't helpful, ask to speak with a supervisor or someone in their product quality department.
Documentation is Key
Keep records of all communication with Kidde (dates, times, names, case numbers, etc.).2.
Explore Other Wireless Interconnected Brands
Since your supply houses are waiting for an alternative, start doing your own research.
System Sensor
System Sensor is a well-regarded manufacturer, they do make wireless smoke detectors and CO detectors. They don't sell directly to the public; instead, you will need to find a licensed distributor.
Nest Protect (Wired or Battery)
The Nest Protect isn't "officially" a part of an interconnected system in the traditional sense, but they can communicate wirelessly through the Nest app and Google Home. If one detects smoke or CO, it sends alerts to all the other Nest Protects and to your phone. This could be a viable option in some situations, especially for tech-savvy customers. Nest Protect may not be a good option for people who don’t use smart phones or are uncomfortable downloading and using Apps.
First Alert Onelink
First Alert/BRK is a well-known brand, and their Onelink system often gets mentioned. However, be aware of user reviews before committing to it.
Consider Hybrid Systems
Some brands offer a combination of hardwired and wireless interconnectivity. You can hardwire as many units as possible and use wireless for the difficult-to-reach areas.3.
Mitigate Interference Issues (If Possible)
If you decide to try a different wireless system, consider these points:
Frequency Selection
Check if the new system allows you to select a specific RF channel. Try to avoid channels that are commonly used by other devices in the home.
Detector Placement
Avoid placing detectors near known sources of RF interference (microwaves, wireless routers, etc.). Ensure detectors are within the recommended range of each other. Minimize obstructions between detectors.
Run an Interference Test
If the system has a testing mode, use it to check the signal strength between all detectors before leaving the job site.4.
Communicate Transparently with Your Customer
Explain the Situation
Let the customer know what you've learned about the Kidde detectors and the potential issues.
Offer Options
Present the alternative solutions you've researched, along with their pros and cons.
Manage Expectations
Emphasize that wireless systems can sometimes be more prone to false alarms than hardwired systems, even with the best brands.
Document Everything
Keep a detailed record of all communication with the customer, the solutions you offered, and their chosen solution.5.
Consider Legal/Warranty Implications
Review Your Contract
What does your contract with the customer say about warranties and potential issues with the installed equipment?
Consult an Attorney
If you're concerned about potential liability, consult with an attorney who specializes in construction or contract law.
Key Considerations When Choosing an Alternative Reliability
Read reviews carefully. Look for products with a proven track record of reliability and minimal false alarms.
Ease of Installation and Programming
How easy is it to pair and configure the devices?
Battery Life
Check the expected battery life of the detectors and the replacement cost.
Features
Consider features like voice alerts, remote silencing, and smartphone integration.*
Code Compliance
Ensure the detectors meet all local building codes and safety standards.
In Summary
The fact that Home Depot and your supply houses pulled the Kidde wireless from shelves strongly suggests a widespread problem. Don't take chances.1. Prioritize contacting Kidde.2. Research thoroughly before choosing another wireless system.3. Communicate openly with your customer.Good luck! This is a tough situation, but with careful research and planning, you can find a suitable solution. Flag for review