User: AC\DC, Location: Florence,Oregon,Lane
Asked on: Friday, June 13, 2025 at 4:46 pm EDT
Answered on: Friday, June 13, 2025 at 4:47 pm EDT
Question: So I hired a guy a while ago about three months ago he’s nice polite and everything, but his code knowledge is very limited. He’s been landing the grounding electrode on the ground bar not the neutral bar. He forgot to put in the bonding screw that was for one job that happened on another job same thing and then on another job, he forgot to put Gfci breakers After I told him for all this plug with circuits in the garage. There’s been other issues too that I have to go fix he doesn’t know how to troubleshoot or trace. He’s good at pipe bending and it was nice that when I didn’t know how to do an elevator. He knew where like the pit was and he knew certain aspects that I didn’t know cause I’ve never done it but just recently he drilled a hole through the roof really made me mad and he took eight hours to run two cat six cables.I’ve told him he’s too slow. He’s gotta pick it up. There’s a Service work and if he’s got questions, call me but I’m at the point now or I’m wondering if I’m just he’s not fit for me. Everyone likes him, but I’m paying him 60 bucks an hour seems like for 60 bucks an hour. I should be able to have someone that I don’t have to babysit.
Okay, you've got a significant problem. You're paying a high rate for someone who isn't performing to the required standard and is costing you time and money correcting his mistakes. Here's a breakdown of the situation and potential solutions
The Problem:
Technical Deficiencies
The grounding/bonding mistakes, missing screws, GFCI omissions, and inability to troubleshoot are serious safety and code violations. These reflect a fundamental lack of electrical knowledge.
Lack of Speed/Efficiency
Taking eight hours for two Cat6 cables is unacceptable. His slowness is significantly impacting your profitability.
Supervision Burden
You're essentially having to double-check and fix his work, which defeats the purpose of hiring someone at his pay rate. This is costing you valuable time and money.
Cost vs. Value
$60/hour is a premium rate, and you're not getting a premium performance. You're paying for expertise that isn't there.
Potential Liability
His mistakes create a liability risk for your business. Incorrect wiring can lead to fires, shocks, and other dangerous situations.
Communication Breakdown
While you've told him to pick up the pace and call with questions, it's not translating into improved performance.
The Positives (Minor but worth acknowledging)
Good at Pipe Bending
This is a valuable skill, but it doesn't outweigh the critical shortcomings.
Elevator Knowledge
This specific knowledge is useful for those rare occasions, but again, not enough to justify the ongoing issues.
Pleasant Demeanor
Being likable is important for team dynamics, but it's not a substitute for competence.
Possible Solutions & Recommendations
Honest and Direct Conversation (Again, but more structured)
Documentation is Key
Before you talk to him again, document specific instances of his errors, the time you spent correcting them, and the associated costs (materials, wasted time). This makes the conversation less emotional and more factual.
Performance Review
Frame the conversation as a formal performance review. Be clear and direct about the areas where he's falling short.
Specific Examples
Use the documented examples to illustrate your points. "On the [date] job at [location], you forgot to install the GFCI breakers as required, costing me [amount] in time and materials to correct."
Clear Expectations
Outline the specific improvements you need to see within a defined timeframe (e.g., one month). "I need to see a significant improvement in your understanding of grounding and bonding within one month. This means you must demonstrate that you can correctly identify and install grounding and bonding conductors according to code."
Training/Resources
Ask him if there are specific areas where he needs more training or resources. While you shouldn't have to train him extensively at this pay rate, understanding his perceived knowledge gaps can be helpful. Offer to provide those resources within reason.
Consequences
Be very clear about the consequences of not meeting the expectations. "If I don't see significant improvement in these areas within one month, I will need to re-evaluate your employment here."
Document the Conversation
Keep a written record of your conversation, the expectations you set, and the agreed-upon timeframe. Have him sign the document to acknowledge that he understands.2.
Consider a Probationary Period
If you see some potential and are willing to invest the time, put him on a formal probationary period. Lower his pay temporarily during the probation (e.g., to a rate commensurate with his current skill level). Provide focused training or mentorship (perhaps by a more experienced electrician on your team). Regularly review his progress and provide feedback. Be prepared to terminate his employment if he doesn't improve within the probationary period.3.
Change of Role
Since he is good at pipe bending, you might consider a role more focused on that task and less on complex electrical work. This depends on the needs of your business and his willingness to accept a different role, and a corresponding decrease in pay.4.
Cut Your Losses
Honestly, based on what you've described, this may be the most prudent option. The mistakes he's making are fundamental, and the amount of time and money you're spending to correct them is unsustainable. The liability risk is also a major concern.
Important Considerations
Legal Compliance
Make sure any disciplinary action or termination is done in accordance with local labor laws. Consult with an employment lawyer if you have any concerns.
Documentation is Crucial
Keep detailed records of his performance, your conversations with him, and any disciplinary actions taken.*
Don't Delay
The longer you wait to address this issue, the more costly it will become.
In summary, you need to take decisive action. His lack of knowledge and efficiency are costing you money, time, and potentially exposing your business to liability. Either he improves dramatically and quickly, or you need to let him go and find someone who can meet your expectations. Flag for review