User: Seven-Delta-FortyOne, Location: Humboldt
Asked on: Thursday, July 24, 2025 at 4:25 pm EDT
Answered on: Thursday, July 24, 2025 at 4:26 pm EDT
Question: Doing a whole house remodel right now, probably built in the ‘60’s.Place is wired with metal flex cable with 2 cloth covered solid conductors inside. No bonding strip.Grounding was accomplished with the metal cable armor. All metal boxes.
Okay, let's break down the implications of this situation. This is a very common wiring setup for homes built in the 1960s, and you're right to assess it during your remodel. Here's a detailed look at the issues and your options
Understanding the Existing System
Metal Flex Cable (Likely AC - Armored Cable)
This is the type of cable you are likely describing. This type of wiring relies on the metal armor of the cable to act as the ground path back to the electrical panel.
Cloth-Covered Conductors
The cloth insulation is often degraded by now. This insulation can become brittle and crack, exposing the conductor. This is a safety hazard.
No Bonding Strip
The absence of a bonding strip inside the cable is a critical point. Modern AC cable includes a bonding strip that increases the ground path reliability. Without it, the grounding is entirely dependent on the integrity of the connections between the metal armor and the metal boxes.
Grounding via Armor
The armor acting as the ground is the weak point. Over time, connections can loosen, corrode, or be compromised, leading to a poor or non-existent ground. This is a significant electrical safety concern.
Metal Boxes
While metal boxes are good for providing a continuous ground path, they still rely on the integrity of the connections to the cable armor.
No dedicated grounding conductor
The original installation relied on the metal sheath of the cable as the grounding conductor.
Safety Concerns Fault Current Path
In the event of a short circuit, the fault current needs a reliable path back to the breaker to trip it quickly. With the armor acting as the ground, that path may be compromised. This increases the risk of electrical shock or fire.
Aging Insulation
Deteriorated cloth insulation is a fire hazard. If the insulation crumbles and exposes the hot wire, it can create a short circuit.
Unreliable Grounding
Loose connections, corrosion, or damage to the cable can interrupt the ground path, leaving outlets and appliances ungrounded.
Risk of Electrocution
Ungrounded appliances and electrical equipment pose a risk of electrocution if a fault occurs.
Options for Remediation
Because you're doing a whole-house remodel, you have a prime opportunity to address this outdated and potentially hazardous wiring. Here are the options, ranked from least to most comprehensive (and usually most expensive):1. Do Nothing (Not Recommended)
Ignoring the problem is the cheapest option, but it's also the riskiest. You're leaving a potentially dangerous electrical system in place. It's generally not a good idea, especially during a major remodel.2.
Replace Outlets with GFCI Outlets (Band-Aid Approach)
How it works
Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter (GFCI) outlets provide a degree of protection against electrical shock. They detect small imbalances in current and trip the circuit quickly.
Pros
Relatively inexpensive and can be done in stages. Improves safety in situations where grounding is unreliable.
Cons
Doesn't fix the underlying problem
You're still relying on potentially unreliable grounding.
Limited protection
GFCI's protect against ground faults (current leaking to ground). They don't protect against other types of electrical hazards like short circuits between hot and neutral.
Can be nuisance tripping
If there is existing leakage in the system, GFCI's may trip frequently.
Won't meet code for new circuits
Any new circuits you add will need to meet current code requirements, which means proper grounding.
Requires labeling
GFCI protected outlets that lack a grounding conductor must be labeled "GFCI Protected" and "No Equipment Ground."3.
Rewire with Modern Cable (Recommended)
How it works
Replace the old cloth-covered wire with modern NM-B (Romex) cable, which includes a separate insulated grounding conductor.
Pros
Addresses all the problems
Provides a safe, reliable grounding system.
Meets current code
Ensures your electrical system is up to modern safety standards.
Increases home value
Upgraded electrical systems are a selling point.
Allows for more modern circuits
You can add more outlets, circuits, and larger appliances without overloading the system.
The Safest and most reliable method of ensuring you have a grounded system. Cons
Most expensive
Requires the most labor and materials.
Disruptive
Involves opening walls and ceilings.
Key Considerations for Rewiring
Permits and Inspections
Always obtain the necessary permits and have the work inspected by a qualified electrical inspector. This ensures the work is done safely and to code.
Qualified Electrician
Hire a licensed and experienced electrician. Electrical work is dangerous and requires specialized knowledge.
Planning
Carefully plan the layout of your new circuits, outlets, and lighting. Consider your current and future electrical needs.
Considerations during Planning Kitchens and Bathrooms require GFCI protection Arc Fault protection on bedroom circuits* Adequate spacing for receptacles in walls and countertops.
Recommendation
Given that you're doing a whole-house remodel, rewiring with modern NM-B cable is the strongly recommended approach. It's the most comprehensive solution and provides the greatest level of safety and peace of mind. While it's the most expensive option, it's a worthwhile investment in your home's safety and value.If you're on a very tight budget, you could consider a combination of GFCI protection for existing circuits and rewiring only the most critical areas (e.g., kitchen, bathrooms) or any new circuits you add. However, this is a compromise and doesn't fully address the underlying problems with the old wiring.Before making any decisions, get quotes from several licensed electricians to assess the scope of the work and the associated costs. They can provide valuable insights into the condition of your existing wiring and recommend the best approach for your situation. They will perform a load calculation to see what is appropriate for your service, and what size panel is needed. Flag for review