User: Alwayslearningelec, Location: NJ
Asked on: Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 3:50 pm EDT
Answered on: Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 3:50 pm EDT
Question: This box is about 800lbs. If covers removed it's 400lbs. Getting picked by crane and set on roof(about 90' of ground). We have to move it about 50' to final location. Being set on floor of roof.We also have to drill(32) 4" ko's. Being told it's going to take (3) men 2 to 2-1/2 days to set. Seems like a lot of time but what do I know.
Okay, let's break down this task and see if the estimated time seems reasonable.
Understanding the Task Equipment
Heavy box (800 lbs with covers, 400 lbs without). It's being lifted by a crane onto a roof 90 feet high.
Movement
The box then needs to be moved 50 feet on the roof to its final location.
Drilling
32 knockouts (KOs) with a 4-inch diameter need to be drilled in the box.
Team
Three men.
Estimated Time
2 to 2.5 days.
Analyzing the Time Estimate
Let's consider each part of the job:1. Crane Lift and Placement
Crane Coordination
This involves coordinating with the crane operator, ensuring proper rigging, and safety checks.
Placement
Carefully positioning the box on the roof. Wind conditions and obstacles on the roof could slow things down.
Time Estimate
A few hours seems reasonable for this part.2.
Moving the Box on the Roof
Methods
How are they moving it? They might use rollers, dollies, or a come-along winch.
Floor Condition
The surface of the roof will greatly impact this. Is it smooth and even, or uneven and covered with gravel?
Obstacles
Are there other HVAC units, pipes, or roof penetrations to maneuver around?
Safety
The crew will need to take extra steps to protect the roof and protect themselves from falling over the edge.
Time Estimate
This could easily take a half day or more depending on how difficult the move is.3.
Drilling the Knockouts
Tooling
What kind of drill are they using? A hole saw or a punch set? Hole saws are much slower.
Material
What's the box made of? Thick steel or thin aluminum?
Accessibility
Are the locations of the KOs easy to reach?
Time Estimate
Let's assume each knockout takes 15 minutes (including setup, drilling, and cleanup). That's 15 minutes/KO 32 KOs = 480 minutes = 8 hours of drilling.4.
Other Factors
Safety Meetings & Planning
Time for safety briefings, job hazard analysis (JHA), and planning the move.
Breaks
Required breaks for the crew.
Unexpected Delays
Weather, equipment malfunctions, unexpected obstacles.
Coordination with other trades
May have to coordinate with other trades on the roof.
Assessment Drilling Time
The drilling alone accounts for almost a full day of work.
Movement Time
Moving the box on the roof is the biggest unknown. If it's a difficult move, it could easily take another half day or full day.
Overall
2 to 2.5 days for three men seems plausible, but perhaps on the high side. It's reasonable if the roof movement is difficult or the drilling process is slow, or a coordination with other trades on the roof, like the electrician for power to the drill.
Questions to Ask / Things to Consider How will the box be moved on the roof? Get details on the planned method and equipment. What is the roof surface like? Is it smooth or rough? Is it level? What is the box made of? How thick is the metal? What tooling will be used to drill the knockouts? This is a huge factor in drilling time. A hydraulic punch set is much faster than a hole saw. Are there other trades that will need to be there while this is taking place?* Are there any constraints on the roof that might take more time?In Conclusion
Without more information about the specific challenges of moving the box on the roof and the drilling process, it's hard to say definitively if the estimate is too high. But is doesn't seem unrealistic. If you can get answers to the questions above, you can get a better feel for whether the time estimate is truly justified. Flag for review