User: TwoBlocked, Location: Bradford County, PA
Asked on: Sunday, June 29, 2025 at 5:08 pm EDT
Answered on: Sunday, June 29, 2025 at 5:17 pm EDT
Question: Never dealt with a RPC before. Got a customer that picked up a 3-ph wide belt 15 HP sander and a RPC rated for starting a 15 HP motor. From what I understand, the voltage of the two utility legs will continue to be 180 deg out of phase from each other, and the manufactured leg voltage will be somewhere around 90 deg from each utility leg.In my way of thinking, the motor would have to be derated because the voltage phases will not be symmetrical. But I concede that perhaps the current phases will be symmetrical, and de-rating is not required.Any gurus out there know the real answer? I did some searching, but am not sure I understand this.
You're right to be cautious and ask questions! RPCs (Rotary Phase Converters) are a bit of a black art, and understanding how they work is crucial for ensuring the longevity of the motor and the reliability of the system.Here's a breakdown of the key considerations and the "real answer"
Understanding RPC Basics
Not Perfect Phase Conversion
An RPC
does not create perfect 3-phase power. It's an approximation. You're taking single-phase power and using a rotating inductor (the idler motor) to shift the phase of one leg to mimic a third phase. Voltage Imbalance
The manufactured leg (the one generated by the RPC) will almost always have a lower voltage than the incoming utility legs. This is because the idler motor has losses and the phase shift isn't perfect.
Current Imbalance
The currents in each phase will also likely be unequal. This is a consequence of the voltage imbalance.
Phase Angle
While you mentioned the phase angles, the critical thing is that they won't be perfectly 120 degrees apart. The manufactured leg's phase angle will deviate.
Do You Need to Derate? Probably, but maybe not drastically.
This is the big question, and the answer is nuanced: Motor Derating is generally recommended, but the extent depends on the quality of the RPC and the motor's design. A well-designed RPC will minimize the voltage imbalance, reducing the need for heavy derating. Voltage Imbalance Matters Most
Voltage imbalance is the primary reason for motor derating with RPCs. Even a small voltage imbalance can cause significant current imbalance, leading to overheating and reduced motor life.
Consider the Application
A sander is a relatively constant-load application. This is good. If it were a heavily cycling load (like a hydraulic press) the stress on the motor would be much greater.
Factors to Consider and How to Mitigate Problems
Here's a checklist of things to consider:1. RPC Quality
Brand/Reputation
Some RPC manufacturers are better than others. Look for reputable brands that are known for producing balanced output.
Capacitor Tuning
Properly tuned capacitors on the RPC are CRITICAL for minimizing voltage imbalance. Some RPCs have adjustable capacitors to fine-tune the output for a specific load. Check the RPC's manual for tuning procedures.2.
Measure the Voltages (CRITICAL)
Line-to-Line Voltages
Use a good-quality multimeter to measure the voltage between each pair of legs (L1-L2, L2-L3, L3-L1) under load. This is the most important measurement. Do it at the motor.
Calculate Voltage Imbalance
Use the following formula:`Voltage Imbalance (%) = (Maximum Deviation from Average Voltage / Average Voltage) 100`Where: `Average Voltage = (L1-L2 + L2-L3 + L3-L1) / 3` `Maximum Deviation = Largest difference between any individual voltage and the Average Voltage.`
Example
L1-L2 = 230V L2-L3 = 200V L3-L1 = 220V Average Voltage = (230 + 200 + 220) / 3 = 216.67V Maximum Deviation = |200 - 216.67| = 16.67V Voltage Imbalance = (16.67 / 216.67) 100 = 7.69%
Acceptable Limits
NEMA MG 1-2016 specifies that polyphase motors should not operate continuously at nameplate horsepower if the voltage imbalance exceeds 1%. Above 1%, derating is generally recommended. Above 5%, motor damage is highly likely.
If the Voltage Imbalance is more than 5% you'll need to adjust the RPC capacitors or replace the converter.3. Motor Temperature Monitoring
Infrared Thermometer
After the sander has been running for a while under a typical load, use an infrared thermometer to check the temperature of the motor windings (if possible). Compare the temperature to the motor's nameplate temperature rating. If it's running hotter than expected, you definitely need to address the imbalance.
Listen for unusual humming.4. Derating Guidelines (if needed)
If the voltage imbalance is between 1% and 5%, consider derating the motor. A common rule of thumb is to reduce the motor's horsepower rating by 10% for every 1% above 1% imbalance. For example, at 3% imbalance, derate the 15 HP motor to roughly 12 HP.5.
Consider a Digital Phase Converter (DPC)
If voltage balance is critical (and you have the budget), consider a digital phase converter. DPCs use solid-state electronics to create a much cleaner and more balanced 3-phase output than an RPC. They are significantly more expensive, though.
Recommendations for your Customer
Stress the importance of a properly tuned RPC
The RPC manual should provide instructions on how to adjust the capacitors to optimize voltage balance for the sander's load.2.
Insist on voltage measurements under load
This is the only way to know the true voltage imbalance.3.
Monitor motor temperature
If the motor is running hot, the customer must address the imbalance.4.
Be conservative with derating (if needed)
It's better to be safe than sorry. A slightly oversized motor running at a derated horsepower will last longer than a borderline motor running near its full capacity with imbalanced voltage.5.
Don't overload the sander
Overloading any motor, especially one running on an RPC, will shorten its life.
In summary: measure the voltage imbalance under load and address the imbalance if it exceeds acceptable limits. If you can't reduce the voltage imbalance below 5% (ideally below 1%), you will need to de-rate the motor to avoid early failure. Flag for review