User: Scoop789, Location: Los Angeles
Asked on: Wednesday, July 2, 2025 at 1:33 am EDT
Answered on: Wednesday, July 2, 2025 at 1:40 am EDT
Question: I’ve been in business for 23 years and never heard of electrical current causing dangerous levels of copper in a homes water.Now in the space of a few months we’ve had 3 clients complain that after having some water control company measure their water in their homes that the recommendation is to check for current leaking on to the pipes.I’m going to to this but has anyone heard of this before?One client is complaining that her hair is turning green and another is complaining about blue residue in the toilet bowls.
You're right to be skeptical. While electrolysis of copper pipes can occur, it's typically from stray DC current, and it's relatively rare. The sudden increase in occurrences you're seeing is suspicious. Here's a breakdown of the issue and things to consider
Understanding the Chemistry & Potential Causes
Electrolysis and Copper Pipes
Electrolysis happens when a DC (direct current) flows through water, causing copper to dissolve from the anode (positive electrode) and deposit elsewhere. The dissolved copper can cause staining and the green/blue discoloration you describe.
Stray DC Current Sources
This is the key! Where's the DC coming from? Here are possible, though less likely, sources:
Faulty Grounding
Improper grounding of electrical systems can lead to stray currents finding paths through plumbing.
DC Transit Systems
If the homes are near a DC-powered rail system (subway, light rail), stray currents could be leaking into the ground and finding their way to the plumbing. This is more common in older systems with poor insulation.
Welding
Improperly grounded welding equipment can also create stray currents.
High-Voltage Transmission Lines
Proximity to high-voltage DC transmission lines could, in theory, induce currents in nearby buried metal.
Low Voltage Landscape Lighting (if improperly wired)
Even though the voltage is low, poor wiring or transformer issues could introduce DC current.
Why DC and Not AC? AC (alternating current) doesn't cause significant electrolysis. The alternating flow of electrons cancels out the dissolving effect. Confirmation of Copper Leaching
You can test for copper in the water using a water testing kit or sending samples to a lab. Document the results.
Here's what I recommend you do to investigate the copper leaching and any suspected stray current
Thorough Electrical Inspection
Grounding System
Verify the grounding system of the home. Check the ground wire connections, ground rods, and bonding of metal pipes to the electrical system. A loose or corroded ground connection is a prime suspect.
Appliance Leakage Current
Use a clamp meter to check for leakage current on appliance ground wires. (Refrigerators, washing machines, etc.). Unplug appliances one at a time to see if the current drops.
Neutral-Ground Voltage
Measure the voltage between the neutral and ground wires at various outlets. A significant voltage (more than a few volts) indicates a problem.2.
Test for Stray DC Current on Pipes
Multimeter
Set your multimeter to DC volts. Connect one lead to a known good ground (like the electrical panel's ground bus) and the other to the copper water pipe. Measure the voltage. Anything more than a very small fraction of a volt (millivolts) warrants further investigation. Move the probe to different sections of pipe, including where they enter and exit the house.
Pipe-to-Soil Voltage
Drive a copper ground rod into the earth at least 3ft away from the pipe and use a multimeter to test the voltage between the water pipe and ground rod. This can give an indication of voltage gradients in the soil.3.
Check with Neighbors
Ask neighbors if they are experiencing similar issues with their water. This could indicate a wider problem with the area's grounding or a common source of stray current.4.
Water Quality Test
A comprehensive water test will determine the copper levels and other contaminants present. This will provide a baseline for future comparisons.5.
Contact the Water Utility
Inquire with the local water utility about the water quality in the area. They may be aware of elevated copper levels or other issues.6.
Look at the History
What type of pipe system does the home have? Galvanized, copper, or pex? Is there a water softener installed? Is the home on a well?
Important Considerations and what to do if you find stray current on a water pipe
Licensed Electrician
Do not attempt any electrical work yourself if you are not a qualified and licensed electrician. Stray current issues can be dangerous.
Document Everything
Keep detailed records of your inspections, measurements, and communications with customers.
Grounding and Bonding
Water Meter
Make sure the water meter is properly bonded.
Proper Bonding
All metal pipes should be properly bonded to the electrical grounding system.
Additional Thoughts Water Softeners
Water softeners can sometimes exacerbate copper leaching by increasing the water's conductivity.
"Water Control Company"
Be wary of companies making exaggerated claims. It's possible they are trying to sell expensive water treatment systems. Always get a second opinion from a reputable source.
Coincidence
It is possible that these incidents are coincidental. There could be other factors affecting water quality in these homes.
In summary: While electrical current can* cause copper leaching, it's not a common occurrence. Thoroughly investigate the grounding system, test for stray current, and gather as much information as possible before jumping to conclusions. Involve a qualified electrician to diagnose and correct any electrical problems. Do not try and fix the issues if you're not qualified. Flag for review