User: FloridaSplash, Location: Central Fl
Asked on: Tuesday, August 12, 2025 at 8:58 am EDT
Answered on: Tuesday, August 12, 2025 at 9:03 am EDT
Question: OK all, new to the forum but have always been a MH fan! I run a business that builds Fiber Optic Networks. Most of our work is underground but we stumbled into an pre-existing situation yesterday at the request of a new client that had a recent lightning strike. Its at a ballfield where there are two buildings about 150' apart. One is a concrete structure and the other has a concrete base with a metal upper floor. There is a steel messenger cable installed that supports the fiber cable between the two buildings. One end anchored to the upper level building steel and the other anchored into the concrete building. Client claims they have video of the lightning striking the messenger cable and it wiping out the network switch the fiber was plugged into but the UPS was not affected. This is a stretch in my mind but i have seen some strange things with lightning over the years. The cable is all dielectric, so zero chance of that being related. I would assume the building steel on the one side of the attachment would be bonded. The client is demanding that we place ground rods at both ends of the aerial run and ground the messenger. I am pretty sure that's going to create more issues. Thoughts anyone?
Welcome to the forum! This is a fascinating situation, and you're right to be cautious about the client's proposed solution. Here's a breakdown of my thoughts and some things to consider
Understanding the Problem
Lightning's Unpredictability
Lightning is incredibly powerful and can induce voltage spikes in unexpected places. It doesn't always follow the path you expect.
Ground Loops
Your concern about creating ground loops is valid. Grounding the messenger cable at both ends can create a loop that can carry significant current during a lightning strike or even from differences in ground potential. This circulating current could then couple into other systems, potentially causing more damage.
Fiber's Isolation
While the fiber cable itself is dielectric (non-conductive), the network switch connected to it isn't. Induced currents from the lightning strike could have traveled through the switch's power supply, Ethernet cable, or even the fiber optic transceiver itself.
UPS's Role (or Lack Thereof)
The fact that the UPS wasn't affected doesn't necessarily rule out lightning as the cause. UPS units typically protect against voltage sags, surges on the power line, and power outages, but they may not be designed to handle the extreme, fast-rising surges induced by a nearby lightning strike. A good UPS will help, but may not be enough.
Why the Client's Solution is Potentially Problematic Creating a Lightning Rod
Grounding the messenger cable at both ends effectively turns it into a lightning rod. While this might attract the next strike away from the buildings, it also guarantees a massive current surge will flow through the messenger cable and into both ground points. This is dangerous.
Increased Ground Potential Difference
Lightning currents flowing through the earth create significant voltage gradients. Grounding at two points will result in significant voltage differences between the grounds during a strike, potentially causing damage to equipment connected to those grounds.
Introducing a Path to Ground
The building with the steel is likely already grounded as part of its electrical system. If lightning hits the messenger cable, it could travel through the messenger, to the building steel, and then to ground. Grounding the other end creates an additional path for this energy to travel, potentially exacerbating the problem.
Possible Causes (and Potential Solutions)1. Induced Voltage in the Network Switch
Likely Scenario
The most probable scenario is that a strong electromagnetic pulse (EMP) generated by the lightning strike induced a high-voltage surge in the network switch. This surge could have traveled through the Ethernet cable connected to the switch, damaging the switch's components.
Solution
Surge Protection
Install high-quality surge protectors on both the power and Ethernet ports of the network switches in both buildings. These should be designed for data lines and be properly rated for the expected surge current. Ensure they are properly grounded to a single, low-impedance ground point.
Fiber Optic Transceiver Protection
Some manufacturers offer surge protection devices for fiber optic transceivers. Look into these as an additional layer of defense.2.
Ground Loop Issues (Less Likely, But Possible)
Scenario
If there are existing ground loops in the building's electrical system, the lightning strike could have amplified those issues, causing voltage differences that damaged the switch.
Solution
Grounding Audit
Have a qualified electrician perform a thorough grounding audit of both buildings to identify and correct any existing ground loop problems. Ensure proper bonding of metallic components.3.
Direct Strike (Less Likely, But Possible)
Scenario
The video evidence the client has suggests a direct strike to the messenger cable.
Solution
Risk Assessment
Evaluate the risk of future strikes. If direct strikes are likely, consider a lightning protection system for the buildings themselves, which would involve air terminals (lightning rods) and a dedicated grounding system. This is a complex and expensive solution, but it's the most effective way to protect against direct strikes.
Recommendations to the Client1. Explain the Risks
Clearly explain the risks of grounding the messenger cable at both ends. Emphasize the potential for creating ground loops and attracting more lightning strikes.2.
Propose a Phased Approach
Phase 1: Surge Protection
Install high-quality surge protection devices on the power and Ethernet ports of the network switches in both buildings. This is the most cost-effective and often the most effective solution.
Phase 2: Grounding Audit
Have a qualified electrician perform a grounding audit of both buildings.
Phase 3: Lightning Protection System (If Necessary)
If problems persist or the risk of direct strikes is high, consider a lightning protection system for the buildings.3.
Emphasize Data Logging
Install a power quality meter at the network switches to record voltage surges, dips, and other anomalies. This data can help diagnose future problems and evaluate the effectiveness of the surge protection devices.4.
Upgrade UPS
Invest in more robust UPS systems designed to withstand voltage surges, especially those related to lightning.5.
Document Everything
Keep meticulous records of all work performed, including surge protector specifications, grounding audit results, and any other relevant information.
Important Considerations
Consult with a Lightning Protection Expert
For a comprehensive solution, consult with a qualified lightning protection expert. They can assess the risk of lightning strikes, recommend appropriate protection measures, and ensure that the system is properly installed and grounded.
Code Compliance
Ensure that all work complies with local electrical codes and regulations.*
Liability: Be clear about your liability. Document your recommendations and any decisions made by the client that deviate from your recommendations.In summary, grounding the messenger cable at both ends is likely a bad idea. A phased approach that focuses on surge protection, grounding audits, and a possible lightning protection system is a more effective and safer solution. Good luck! Flag for review