User: Fred B, Location: Upstate, NY
Asked on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025 at 9:02 am EDT
Answered on: Tuesday, May 13, 2025 at 8:28 pm EDT
Question: Got an installation that I need to replace the main panel. There is an exterior disconnect a solar system that feeds a power wall and for back feed and power wall acts a generator when primary power is off. Question is what is the shut down sequence to eliminate all power without causing an issue to the PV and power wall? Or does it matter?
This is a complex situation that requires careful planning and execution. Here's a breakdown of the recommended shutdown sequence and important considerations, along with a strong DISCLAIMER
DISCLAIMER
I am an AI and cannot provide electrical advice. Working with electrical systems, especially those involving solar and battery backup, is dangerous and can be lethal. You must consult with a qualified and licensed electrician experienced with solar, battery backup systems (like Powerwall), and main panel replacements before performing any work. This information is for educational purposes only and should not be used as a substitute for professional advice.
Understanding the System is Critical
Before you touch anything, you MUST understand the exact configuration of the system. This includes:
Single-Line Diagram
Find or create a complete single-line diagram of the entire electrical system, including the utility grid, solar panels, inverters, Powerwall, exterior disconnects, main panel, subpanels (if any), and all relevant breakers and switches. This is essential.
Manufacturer Documentation
Gather all documentation for the solar inverters, Powerwall, and any other relevant equipment. This will include specific shutdown procedures.
Specific Model Numbers
Note the exact model numbers of all components.
Communication Links
Understand how the Powerwall and solar system communicate. Some systems rely on communication to properly island and prevent backfeed.
Grid-Tied vs. Off-Grid Behavior
Understand how the Powerwall and solar system transition between grid-tied and off-grid operation.
Recommended Shutdown Sequence (General Guidelines - Consult Your Documentation!)
Again, this is a GENERAL guideline. Your specific installation may require a different order. Refer to your equipment manuals!1. Inform the Utility
Contact your utility company before starting any work. They may need to coordinate with you and may have their own safety procedures.2.
Disable Solar Inverter(s)
AC Disconnect
Locate the AC disconnect switch between the solar inverter(s) and the main panel (or subpanel if applicable). Open this disconnect. This prevents the solar from feeding AC power into the system.
DC Disconnect
Locate the DC disconnect switch(es) between the solar panels and the inverter(s). Open these disconnects. This isolates the solar panels from the inverter.
Inverter Shutdown Procedure
Follow the manufacturer's instructions for properly shutting down the solar inverter(s). This might involve specific button sequences or software commands. Failure to do this properly can damage the inverter.
Verify No Output
Use a multimeter to confirm that there is no AC voltage coming from the solar inverters.3.
Isolate the Powerwall
Powerwall Disconnect
Locate the disconnect switch (usually a breaker) that feeds the Powerwall. Open this disconnect.
Powerwall Shutdown Procedure
Consult the Powerwall documentation for the recommended shutdown procedure. Some Powerwalls can be shut down through the Tesla app or by pressing a button on the unit. Others may require specific breaker sequences. Failure to follow the Powerwall procedure can lead to unintended behavior and potential damage.
Wait for Shutdown
Allow sufficient time for the Powerwall to fully shut down after disconnecting it. Check the Powerwall's status indicators to confirm it is off. This could take several minutes.
Verify No Output
Use a multimeter to confirm there is no AC voltage coming from the Powerwall disconnect.4.
Open the Exterior Disconnect
This is your main shutoff from the utility. Open this disconnect.
IMPORTANT
Verify with a meter that all circuits downstream of the disconnect are de-energized.5.
Double-Check Everything
Before touching the main panel, use a reliable voltage tester to confirm that every circuit within the panel is de-energized. Test multiple points on each busbar.6.
Main Panel Replacement
Now you can safely proceed with replacing the main panel.
Important Considerations
Backfeed Protection
The Powerwall system should have built-in backfeed protection to prevent it from sending power back onto the grid when the grid is down. Make sure this protection is functioning correctly.
Islanding
The Powerwall system must be able to "island" itself from the grid when the grid is down. This means it disconnects from the utility and creates its own independent power system. Make sure this is tested and working before relying on it.
Grounding
Proper grounding is essential for safety. Verify that the grounding system is intact and meets all applicable codes.
Labeling
Clearly label all disconnects and breakers to indicate their function. This is crucial for future maintenance and emergencies.
Torque Specifications
When reinstalling breakers and other components in the new panel, always use the torque specifications provided by the manufacturer.
Inspection
After completing the installation, have a qualified electrical inspector review the work to ensure it meets all applicable codes.
Testing
After the main panel is replaced, thoroughly test the entire system to ensure it is functioning correctly. This includes: Verifying that the solar system is producing power. Verifying that the Powerwall is charging and discharging correctly. Simulating a power outage to ensure the Powerwall automatically switches over and provides backup power. Testing the backfeed protection to ensure it prevents power from being sent back onto the grid.
Permitting
Ensure you have the necessary permits for the work.
Why This Sequence Matters
Safety
The primary goal is to ensure the safety of the electrician and anyone else who might come into contact with the electrical system.
Equipment Protection
Improper shutdown can damage sensitive electronic equipment like solar inverters and the Powerwall.
Preventing Backfeed
Backfeeding electricity onto the grid during a power outage is extremely dangerous and can electrocute utility workers.*
Maintaining System Integrity
A proper shutdown sequence helps to preserve the integrity of the entire electrical system.
In summary, do not attempt this work without a qualified and licensed electrician experienced with solar and battery backup systems. This is a complex and potentially dangerous task that requires specialized knowledge and skills. Flag for review