User: Alwayslearningelec, Location: NJ
Asked on: Friday, June 6, 2025 at 2:50 pm EDT
Answered on: Friday, June 6, 2025 at 2:58 pm EDT
Question: So I have a new coned(utility) service coming into new building. Running 13.2kv from coned box to utility xfrmr( about 600') then going into building/service equipment about 50' from there.Need temporary power for building so what are my options. My thinking.1. Use a temp generator until we get the service conductors installed then use the incoming service feeders for temp power?2. Try to service conductors installed before temp power is needed. Not sure possible as we'd have to rely on Coned(utility) being ready.3. Use existing power in area. Not sure there is any.Are these my options?
You've outlined the main options, but let's break them down with more considerations and potential additions
Your Options, Elaborated:
1. Temporary Generator
Pros
Independent of utility timelines. Relatively quick to deploy (depending on generator size and availability). Can be sized to meet specific temporary load needs.
Cons
Fuel costs (can be significant, especially for long-term use). Noise pollution. Maintenance requirements (oil changes, filter replacements, etc.). Potential permit requirements (air quality, noise). Safety considerations (fuel storage, exhaust). Requires a qualified operator for larger generators.
Considerations
Size the generator appropriately for your peak temporary loads. Factor in startup surges of motors and other equipment. Determine if you need a single generator or if paralleling smaller units is more cost-effective and flexible. Consider automatic transfer switches for seamless transition between generator and utility power (if eventually used). Investigate rental vs. purchase. Rental is often more economical for short-term needs.2.
Expedited Service Conductor Installation
Pros
Potentially the most cost-effective solution in the long run. Permanent, reliable power source.
Cons
Dependent on Con Edison's schedule and coordination. This is a HUGE variable and could be the biggest obstacle. Possible delays in the overall project schedule if Con Ed isn't ready when you are. Potential coordination challenges between your electrical contractor and Con Ed. Requires careful planning and pre-ordering of materials with long lead times (conductors, terminations, etc.).
Considerations
Aggressively pursue scheduling and communication with Con Ed. Get firm commitments and deadlines. Offer incentives (within ethical and legal boundaries) to expedite the process. Have a backup plan (generator) in case Con Ed delays significantly. Start the permit process with Con Ed ASAP. Verify cable availability and lead times before committing to this option. Large cables can be backordered.3.
Existing Power in Area
Pros
Potentially the quickest and easiest solution (if available). Lower upfront costs compared to a generator.
Cons
Likely limited capacity – may not be sufficient for all your temporary power needs. Potential for voltage drops and instability if overloaded. Requires permission from the owner of the existing power source. May require temporary wiring and connections to be run, which could be costly. Could be expensive to 'tap' into.
Considerations
Thoroughly investigate the availability and capacity of existing power sources. Get written permission from the owner of the power source. Ensure the existing power source is adequately protected (fuses, breakers). Properly size and install temporary wiring and connections by a qualified electrician. Calculate the maximum load you can draw from the existing source without causing problems.
Additional Options and Considerations
Phased Approach
Combine options. For example, use a small generator initially for minimal power, then transition to temporary use of the service conductors once installed but before the full permanent system is commissioned.
Solar + Battery Storage
If the temporary power needs are relatively small and during daylight hours, a portable solar generator or a small solar array with battery storage might be a viable option. This is generally more expensive upfront but could save on fuel costs.
Detailed Load Analysis
Before deciding on any option, create a detailed list of all temporary power needs, including wattage, voltage, and frequency requirements. Don't forget startup surges. This is CRITICAL.
Budget
Develop a budget for each option to help determine the most cost-effective solution.
Timeline
Carefully consider the project timeline and how each option aligns with your schedule.
Local Regulations
Check with local authorities for any permits or regulations related to temporary power installations (generators, wiring, etc.).
Safety
Prioritize safety in all temporary power installations. Use qualified electricians and follow all applicable codes.*
Metering
If drawing power from an existing source, consider installing a temporary meter to accurately track usage and facilitate billing.
Recommendation
Given the potential for delays with Con Ed and the relatively long run of 600' from the Con Ed box to your transformer,
Option 1 (temporary generator) is likely the most realistic and controllable option. However, you need to vigorously pursue Option 2 simultaneously. The sooner the permanent service can be installed, the better. Option 3 is worth investigating but is less likely to be a viable long-term solution due to capacity limitations.
Action Items
Contact Con Ed Immediately
Get a clear understanding of their timeline for service installation.2.
Perform a Detailed Load Analysis
Determine your exact temporary power needs.3.
Get Generator Quotes
Research generator rental and purchase options.4.
Investigate Existing Power Sources
Explore the availability and capacity of existing power in the area.5.
Develop a Contingency Plan
Have a backup plan in case your primary option falls through.6.
Engage an Experienced Electrical Contractor
A qualified electrician can help you evaluate your options and ensure safe and compliant installations.7.
DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. Keep meticulous records of communications, quotes, permits, and decisions.Good luck! Dealing with utilities is often a frustrating and time-consuming process. Flag for review